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Date:      Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:04:38 -0700
From:      Mike Bowie <mbowie@buzmo.com>
To:        User ken <ken@tydfam.jp>
Cc:        freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Eclipse 3.4 / Ganymede
Message-ID:  <4861D1E6.3070109@buzmo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080621.171845.994771096261066569.ken@tydfam.jp>
References:  <485BF193.9030309@buzmo.com> <20080621.171845.994771096261066569.ken@tydfam.jp>

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User ken wrote:
>   Go ahead, Mike!!
>   Does it run on jdk16 or on jdk15/16?
> 
>   And 3.4 would better replace current 3.3.2 eclipse-devel if it does not cause much problems to 3.3.2 users.  It is because that eclipse depends on mozilla/seamonkey, etc. And 3.3.2 maintenance may need some retroactive works with those which may not be so productive as -devel port.   If we need 3.3.2, I think that it needs to be maintained apart from -devel port.


Quick update... I've migrated about 80% of the previous patches to the 
release build, but haven't got so far as to actually compile anything 
yet.  I'd hoped to get something at least test-worthy by the time 
ganymede drops (tomorrow) but clearly I've left it too late.

At this point I should be able to finish the existing patches tomorrow 
afternoon, then focus on seeing what other changes it will need in order 
to build.

The build instruction don't look to have changed since early in 3.x, so 
they still cite jdk1[4|5|6], but based on Ken's work on 3.2 and 3.3, I'm 
currently assuming jdk1[5|6] is required.

It would seem that I'm unable to make a post without bringing up old 
issues... and this time is no exception.

1) Upstream commits.  *So* much of this patching is just adding simple 
FreeBSD references into all the build.xml files... it sure would be nice 
if we could *at least* get the build tags pushed upstream.  Failing 
that, we're just going to keep burning man-hours patching or maintaining 
scripts to do the job.  Per the build notes, there are a number of 
"Unsupported Platforms" included in the build system... right now, that 
would put FreeBSD ports way ahead of where it is now.  Does anyone know 
of someone on the Eclipse team that might be able to lend a hand?  I 
think Dan mentioned he might a while back... any leads on that?  (I 
myself have a chap I'll get in touch with in the next few days.)

2) Port naming etc... I'm not sure that anyone really made a call on 
maintaining previous versions etc.  I'm not sure that I see a problem 
with having a few versions in the tree, as long as it's made clear that 
the latest version is the only developed version... if someone has a 
special interest in a dated release, I'd imagine the community as a 
whole would benefit.  How about bringing new releases into the tree with 
either their version number or release name?  "java/eclipse-europa" or 
"java/eclipse34".  If a pkg-message is included with older releases, at 
least people can choose.  (Or if they're bound by a plugin or something.)

With a bit of luck, I'll have something worth playing with in the next 
day or two.  If luck isn't on my side, I'll have a tarball of recycled 
patches someone else can play with. ;-)

Cheers,

Mike.

-- 
"You don't see FreeBSD developers sitting in a smoke-filled room 
plotting the overthrow of Microsoft. We sit in light, airy rooms and 
plot where to get the best drinks." - Michael Lucas



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