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Date:      Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:07:02 +0100
From:      Rui Paulo <rpaulo@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Net <net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: mbuf changes
Message-ID:  <9AD4923A-72AE-4FE3-A869-3AF8ECBF17E2@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010021627230.49031@fledge.watson.org>
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On 2 Oct 2010, at 16:29, Robert Watson wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Julian Elischer wrote:
>=20
>> On 9/30/10 10:49 AM, Ryan Stone wrote:
>>> It's not a big thing but it would be nice to replace the m_next and =
m_nextpkt fields with queue.h macros.
>> funny, I've never even thought of that..
>=20
> I have, and it's a massive change touching code all over the kernel in =
vast quantities.  While in principle it's a good idea (consistently =
avoid hand-crafted linked lists), it's something I'd discourage on the =
basis that it probably won't significant reduce the kernel bug count, =
but will make it even harder for vendors with large local changes to the =
network stack to keep up.

I think it could also increase the kernel bug count. Unfortunately, we =
can't do this incrementally.

> (We might consider revisiting the proposal for 10.0, perhaps?  I'd =
rather we burnt the cycles on fleshing out network stack virtualization =
more thoroughly for 9.x though.)

I agree that this doesn't bring us a great improvement for the amount of =
work that's required.

Regards,
--
Rui Paulo





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