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Date:      Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:17:17 +1100
From:      Sue Blake <sue2@welearn.com.au>
To:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Cc:        Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>, Richard Stanaford <richard@cube3.erinet.com>, "Randy A. Katz" <randyk@ccsales.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Password Characters Not Required???
Message-ID:  <19980320131717.53739@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980319151824.21872A-100000@shell.uniserve.com>; from Tom on Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 03:21:54PM -0800
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980319172128.23320A-100000@fledge.watson.org> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980319151824.21872A-100000@shell.uniserve.com>

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On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 03:21:54PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Robert Watson wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Richard Stanaford wrote:
> > 
> > >   Indeed it is normal.  FreeBSD takes only the first 8 significant
> > > characters and then truncates the rest.  This is not FreeBSD specific. 
> > > BSDI is the same way, along with Solaris and other flavors of Unix, I
> > > believe.   
> > 
> > However, BSD/OS allows you to modify the max password length for
> > userclasses, up to 128 characters I think?  Similarly, the password
> 
>   This is for user entry purposes.  FreeBSD has it to.  It has nothing to
> do with how many password characters might be significant.
> 
> > behavior here is a function of the crypt() used -- with Kerberos, you get
> > whatever the Kerberos behavior is -- it certainly has more significant
> > characters, however.  I would personally like to see change in behavior
> > here, perhaps as a login.conf option similar to BSD/OS.  I don't see one
> > in the -stable login.conf man page, however.
> 
>   md5 also has more significant characters (16 I believe).  In many ways,
> the "secure" (DES) distribution is actually less secure than the default
> md5.

I don't understand this stuff, but I did a braindead-newbie installation of
2.2.2 and I use long passwords because I never heard there was a limit of 8.
The long passwords are very real on my system.

My 43 character password doesn't work if I leave characters off the end.
My 89 character password doesn't work if I omit or change the last
character.

Clearly we are seeing some differences here. If there is a password length
limit it should be documented somewhere handy, especially if installation
decisions affect it. I'm keen to see agreement and then a plain English
summary.

-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-

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