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Date:      Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:27:29 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/calendar calendar.1
Message-ID:  <20011001182729.Y31215@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011001114153.A4250@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:41:53AM %2B0300
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On Monday,  1 October 2001 at 11:41:53 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:04:43PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday,  1 October 2001 at 11:29:16 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:47:10PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Monday,  1 October 2001 at 10:08:57 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:35:52PM -0700, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>>> grog        2001/09/30 19:35:52 PDT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Modified files:
>>>>>>     usr.bin/calendar     calendar.1
>>>>>>   Log:
>>>>>>   Add description for calendar.freebsd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Revision  Changes    Path
>>>>>>   1.23      +3 -1      src/usr.bin/calendar/calendar.1
>>>>>
>>>>> FreeBSD is to be spelled ".Fx" in mdoc(7).
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't work on other systems, and even on FreeBSD it only tends
>>>> to obfuscate.
>>>
>>> This works on other systems that use the compatible version of
>>> the mdoc(7) macro package distributed with Groff.
>>
>> Precisely.  What's the advantage?
>>
> .Fx uses a special font/size and prevents undesirable hyphenation.
> When used with the version argument, it also checks the version.

I suppose that's a reason.

>>>>> Also, you forgot to update document date.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding was that the document date had nothing to do with
>>>> when it was updated.  Can you state the policy?
>>>>
>>> This is from share/examples/mdoc:
>>>
>>> .\" Note: The date here should be updated whenever a non-trivial
>>> .\" change is made to the manual page.
>>
>> This change was trivial.
>>
> I myself consider the following changes trivial: markup and/or spelling
> fixes.  If you change the content, OTOH, e.g. you document new option or
> new functionality, or add a paragpraph about functionality that wasn't
> previously documented, you should bump document date.
>
> Note "should" but not "must".  This is because if you don't do this,
> I will.  :-)

No, that is contrary to the committer guidelines.  Please don't do
that.

I am getting thoroughly fed up with your attitude.  You have no
authority to dictate this sort of change.  Sure, you've done a lot of
good grunt-work tidying up the man pages, but things would have been a
lot easier to handle if you didn't try to impose such a policeman-like
attitude, and discussed things instead.  What you personally consider
to be trivial is of no consequence.  We have a docmeister who doesn't
try to throw his weight around, and who hasn't commented on most of
these trivialities.

Personally, I would much rather see the date changed every time the
document was changed.  That would alert people to the fact that
*something* has changed.

Greg
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