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Date:      Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:30:57 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: I'd like to axe some drivers
Message-ID:  <E6FE2A08-801E-48C7-B454-10FC010D257E@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <201411201631.27556.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <201411201631.27556.jhb@freebsd.org>

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tl;dr: kill everything on your list.

Notes.

On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> wl(4):    This is a driver for an ancient pre-802.11 wireless adapter. =
 It
> 	      also includes wlconfig(8).  Warner promises he won't test =
any
>          patches for this.  It's older and slower than wi(4) and that =
driver
>          hasn't really worked in years.  (One could make the case for =
axing
>          an(4) and wi(4) as well, but I'm just pushing for wl(4).)

I had this driver working. In FreeBSD 4.2. I discontinued using this =
card
back in the 90=92s. I discarded this cards themselves  a couple of years
ago. It doesn=92t interoperate with anything except itself. Comparisons =
to
wi(4) aren=92t really relevant.This is ancient hardware, of limited use =
to
all but a few arcane people that hasn=92t likely be run in a real system
since before the US knew about Monica...

> ie(4):    Unfortunately, someone actually found one of these and =
tested it
>          several years ago when I added locking to it.  It is the only =
ISA
>          NIC driver that doesn't have a pccard attachment (you can in =
theory
>          still use a pccard NIC in a cardbus slot (though not =
ExpressCard)).
>          This also only does 10Mb using PIO (no DMA).  It doesn't use
>          bus_space.

No PC Cards using this chip were ever made that I could discover (and
I tried very hard). Not having enough users that care enough to update
it to the latest thing, nor to test it, etc speaks volumes. It=92s =
hardware that=92s
not relevant enough to generate in the 15 years that they=92ve been =
around.
Other ISA and PC Card drivers have had those fixes done, but we=92re not
talking about them. ie(4) should be retired.

Warner

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