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Date:      Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:36:30 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        026809r@dragon.acadiau.ca (Michael Richards), security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why don't winblows program have buffer overruns?
Message-ID:  <199808170244.UAA18362@lariat.lariat.org>
In-Reply-To: <199808162301.UAA09103@dragon.acadiau.ca>

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At 08:01 PM 8/16/98 -0300, Michael Richards wrote:
 
>Hi!
>I have been following the buffer overrun discussions for quite some time.
>One thing that I have always wondered is:
>Why aren't there buffer overruns for winblows that overrun the stack and
>execute nasty code? 

There are. However, Windows machines are not generally run as servers, and
therefore do not, for the most part, have daemons running that are easy
to exploit (e.g. QPopper). You can still confuse them and possibly crash
them via things like Winnuke (a program which exploits a flaw in Windows'
built-in NetBIOS over TCP/IP implementation). But it's actually harder to 
take over the machine. This is why the recently published Outlook e-mail 
buffer overflow is a big deal; it's one of the few known holes that can 
potentially be used to take over a Windows machine that's a CLIENT rather 
than a SERVER.

--Brett


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