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Date:      Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:08:22 +0900 (JST)
From:      Nakata Maho <chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp>
To:        trevor@jpj.net
Cc:        edwin@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/astro/celestia Makefile ports/astro/celestia/files patch-src::celengine::starbrowser.h patch-src::celestia::celestiacore.cpp
Message-ID:  <20030902.090822.115963958.chat95@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp>
In-Reply-To: <20030901130836.M93518@blues.jpj.net>
References:  <200308310358.h7V3wrKJ003517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030901130836.M93518@blues.jpj.net>

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Hi, Trevor

> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> 
> > edwin       2003/08/30 20:58:53 PDT
> >
> >   FreeBSD ports repository
> >
> >   Modified files:
> >     astro/celestia       Makefile
> >   Added files:
> >     astro/celestia/files patch-src::celengine::starbrowser.h
> >                          patch-src::celestia::celestiacore.cpp
> >   Log:
> >   Partly unbreak astro/celestia due to C++ issues.
> >   Also applied PR ports/46149
> >
> >   PR:             ports/46149  <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46149>;
> >   Submitted by:   Brad Laue <brad@brad-x.com>
> >   Approved by:    maintainer timeout
> >
> >   Revision  Changes    Path
> >   1.9       +18 -11    ports/astro/celestia/Makefile
> >   1.1       +11 -0     ports/astro/celestia/files/patch-src::celengine::starbrowser.h (new)
> >   1.1       +21 -0     ports/astro/celestia/files/patch-src::celestia::celestiacore.cpp (new)
> 
> There is no "maintainer timeout" for changes such as this which were never
> proposed to the maintainer.  Also, these changes do not match your
> description of them.

IMHO I think Edwin's statement of `maintainer timeout' is correct.
You are the maintainer of celestia, however, this PR was submitted
Mon Dec 09 12:20:01 PST 2002 about 10 month old, almost a year before.
This is *TOO* old PR, absolutely. 

I don't like such sad situation.

I (there's no compulsion, though) think such attitude for a port
should be regarded as `drop maintainership'. 

I am a quite new committer who makes many pointy hats,
and lack of skills and knowledges, however, many people helped
me a lot. Namely there are some ports which I cannot fix by myself,
many people gave me suggestions and even enhancements
(thanks for everyone).

So if you have some problems (lack of maintaining time or skill),
you should drop maintainership to ports@FreeBSD.org,
but still you have a right to do some enhancement or modification
whenever you want.

I don't want to see to set some rules, like `PR outdated for 3 month
any committers can fix' since freedom is one of the good thing for FreeBSD.

Regards,
 maho







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