Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:37:55 -0300 From: JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br> To: Gavin Atkinson <gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk>, Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE Message-ID: <200705181837.56210.joao@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan>
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On Thursday 17 May 2007 15:10:06 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 05:51:07PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote: > > > A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off > > > FreeBSD. > > > > Although work on a new installer is "ongoing", nobody ever seems to be > > clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are > > trying to fix. =A0I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is > > the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one. > > I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy. > > As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD > installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. datacenters probably do not use the installer at all but that is another po= int further to the points you mentioned already I like to add that the most=20 missing thing is that the installer does not suggest a default disk layout. Jumping directly into fdisk is where a user aborts and also as mentioned,=20 since disk geometry is not necessary to show at all, first because it is=20 mostly wrong and second who cares. This is not for a standard installer and= =20 should be an option (if). a user does not know what fdisk is and what to do (and eventually he does n= ot=20 even speak nor read english so the options list is what scares him still=20 more)=20 so he is bailing out here and for my understandings this is the most import= ant=20 point which cause freebsd does not make it to the user's desktop.=20 So a better solution would be to invert the current situation and give a=20 default layout for fdisk AND labels which can be accepted (<OK>) or cancell= ed=20 and if then jumps into fdsik for advanced users My personal suggestion is to invert the IP screen and put GW and DNS after = IP=20 and mask fields what is kind of more usual and logical =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br
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