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Date:      Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:58:47 -0400
From:      Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, dave@jetcafe.org, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <4C19F70A-C38F-11D6-8C5E-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020907110109.T44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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On Saturday, September 7, 2002, at 04:10  PM, Neal E. Westfall wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
>> "Neal E. Westfall" wrote:
>>>> The scientific method never verifies, it only falsifies, so asking
>>>> that something be empirically verified, whether it be the old theory
>>>> of evolution, the current theory of puctuated equilibria, or that
>>>> gravity is related to the curvature of space, is asking for the
>>>> impossible.  Science can only demonstrate the invalidity of ideas,
>>>> not their validity.
>>>
>>> Okay, then lets stop pretending that creation is "unscientific" while
>>> evolution is "scientific".  Neither one of them can be falsified, so
>>> either *both* of them are scientific, or neither of them are.  You
>>> can't have your cake and eat it too.  If you claim an explanation
>>> must also be "naturalistic", I charge you with providing a
>>> justification for such arbitrariness.
>>
>> I guess we can keep on calling the currently accepted scientific
>> theory "evolution", even though that's not the correct name for it.
>>
>> With that in mind, the methods you use judge one theory vs. another
>> are:
>>
>> 1)	Are the theories predictive?
>
> Evolution is not, as it relies on chance.  Chance, by definition,
> is unpredictable.
>

If you take a step back far enough those random chances become very 
predicateable.  Read up on chaos theory and how randomness works.
>
> --Larry


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