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Date:      Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:05 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        rwatson@freebsd.org
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dhclient less functional with nanobsd because of NO_CXX
Message-ID:  <20050620.124905.35871665.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050619012425.L56734@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <20050619012425.L56734@fledge.watson.org>

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In message: <20050619012425.L56734@fledge.watson.org>
            Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> writes:
: 
: Observation on dependencies between components and nanobsd:
: 
: In the old world order, dhclient backgrounded and waited for the link 
: state to come up.  In the new world order, dhclient exits if the link 
: state is down, relying on devd to restart it.  devd isn't build if NO_CXX 
: is set, as it's written in C++, and NO_CXX is a useful (and default) thing 
: to set for nanobsd for obvious reasons.  It sounds like something here is 
: an argument for:
: 
: - Allowing C++ to be built as a build dependency, but not installed.
: - Rewriting devd to not be in C++.
: - Providing an option so that dhclient's old and useful behavior can be
:    restored.

It is generally desirable to have a separate 'install' environemnt
from the 'build' environment on real embedded systems.  The fact that
nanobsd doesn't have this useful distinction is a problem with
nanobsd, not devd.  It should build everything, but install with all
the NO_XXX flags set to do subsetting.

devd won't be rewritten to not use C++.  That's a non-option.

Warner



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