Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:52:21 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: bs_13943_34262@adimus.de (Benedikt Stockebrand) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) Message-ID: <199812161952.LAA75064@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <sa7af0ol69i.fsf@adimus.de> from Benedikt Stockebrand at "Dec 16, 1998 11:40: 9 am"
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According to Benedikt Stockebrand: > I've really tried to stay out of this discussion, but what the fsck... > I understand why you should stay out of discussions you don't understand. > > Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> writes: > > > According to Mike Smith: > > > > > This doesn't sound to me like any sort of justification. In fact, it > > > looks like a specific application, and more to the point, a strong > > > argument for having it a port. > > > > > > > A 33% increase in execution time doesn't seem like a good justification? > > It doesn't justify it being part of the base installation. It'll slow > down turnaround times for ``make world'' with only an almost > negligible fraction of users actually using fortran. A Fortran compiler has been part of the base system since FreeBSD 1.1.5. > I'm not sure if you don't understand the distinction between the base > system and the ports collection or don't want to accept the fact that > fortran isn't considered "basic" functionality these days anymore. I fully understand the difference. I'm suggesting the replacement of current inferior functionality with a superior solution. > All claimed advantages have absolutely nothing to do with the question > of placing your fortran compiler in the base system instead of a port. There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. It is inferior. g77 provides a better replacement. > "Wasting large amounts of disk space" on everyones system because the > base installation comes with fortran is negligible or what? There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. It is inferior. g77 provides a better replacement. > Sorry, but if you don't want to provide a couple megs of disk space > for a second fortran-optimized gcc setup you shouldn't try to force a > couple megs of disk space down every one elses throat^WSCSI bus. There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. It is inferior. g77 provides a better replacement. > But seriously, if the BSDs have one huge advantage over assorted Linux > distributions and most commercial Un*xen then it's that it comes with > a fairly small base installation. Add whatever you want to the ports > collection but keep the base system small. agreed. -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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