Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:54:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell E6330 Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407272349430.72266@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20140728053555.GA1398@La-Habana> References: <20140727092601.GA1719@La-Habana> <53D4E7D1.7060806@borderworlds.dk> <20140727131605.GA2402@La-Habana> <CAJ-Vmonse0k4%2BHAhBKgcA1k54CHUdXvSaWyVCsTRJbNtUQT7NA@mail.gmail.com> <20140727184017.GA1269@La-Habana> <CAJ-VmoksD1XOKtxQ-Qw5Xb6fsNWH8a5DJB2WmhgjiBTpSnffJg@mail.gmail.com> <20140728053555.GA1398@La-Habana>
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El dÃa Sunday, July 27, 2014 a las 01:32:58PM -0700, Adrian Chadd escribió: > >> Hi! >> >> On 27 July 2014 11:40, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote: >>> El dÃa Sunday, July 27, 2014 a las 10:56:26AM -0700, Adrian Chadd escribió: >>> >>>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops >>>> >>>> Please add it and all the details you have! > > Hi Adrian, > > I'm loged in into the Wiki, but when I click 'Edit' on the page > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops I only get an nearly empty text field > saying only: > > = Laptops running FreeBSD = > > <<FullSearch(category:CategoryLaptop)>> > > nothing else. What I do wrong? It's a category. Enter the brand a model of as the URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/brand_model-number and there is a Create New Page link. I'd hope there is a template, but probably not. (Um, untested.) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 09:43:57 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6CD89C5 for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06D562B55 for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s6S9hjKh024606; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:43:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:43:45 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Subject: Re: Dell E6330 In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407271252000.21745@wonkity.com> Message-ID: <20140728190516.C60345@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20140727092601.GA1719@La-Habana> <53D4E7D1.7060806@borderworlds.dk> <20140727131605.GA2402@La-Habana> <CAJ-Vmonse0k4+HAhBKgcA1k54CHUdXvSaWyVCsTRJbNtUQT7NA@mail.gmail.com> <20140727184017.GA1269@La-Habana> <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407271252000.21745@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD <freebsd-mobile.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:43:57 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:03:20 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El día Sunday, July 27, 2014 a las 10:56:26AM -0700, Adrian Chadd escribió: > > > >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops > >> > >> Please add it and all the details you have! > > > > I went to the page (and I will later add the details of the bunch of > > laptops and netbooks I have), but ... there are 11 (eleven!!!) laptops > > only :-( > > > > the page I was talking about, the laptop compat list, had hundreds, I > > think; the page is down for years now and I tried to get in contact to > > the folks running the database with web frontend to get at least the > > data in some structured way and put them somewhere on my web space... Matthias, might you ask again? At least you speak the language, and yes, it would be very good to recover that data. Sure it was a bit overwhelmed by drive-by spammers in its latter years, but anyone with a handle on (say) phpmyadmin could likely clean that data up in a day. > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd > > DNS is not resolving for it now. Several years ago, it had been down > for a while, but I managed to contact the admin and they restarted it. > There were problems with spammers, but it was often useful. I've been trying there every maybe few months for the last year, or so. The domain is still registered, both bsdgroup.de and laptop.bsdgroup.de (cname www.bsdgroup.de) are in DNS, but haven't responded for .. ages. I found it so useful that I bought a couple of Thinkpad T23s in (IIRC) '06, on the strength that Nate Lawson had developed lots of the ACPI code on one and it was one of the few then that suspended and resumed reliably, and then only after a particular tweak was enabled, ie hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1. Not that that particular detail is relevant, just that the layout lent itself to various people adding notes about what worked, what didn't, under which OS versions, and things to try .. with pointers to dmesgs. > Really, we need a program that identifies hardware and reports the > drivers available. There may be something out there already which we > could use, like HDT: http://hdt-project.org/ Well there's dmidecode, which has all the info but not in such a useful form. dmesg snippets for different subsystems - esp these days as noted for wireless and graphics, but to people like me (if any? :) things like reliable suspend/resume are just as important, and that's often very OS version-dependent. FLCL encouraged multiple reports; it was a bit too easy for spammers, but easy enough that Joe Punter could add his stuff. Is bsdstats still running? That had some utility re what people ran, and was enabled by default on some earlier version (7 maybe?) though I also recall some controversy about privacy or security at one stage. > Right now, for example, end users have no easy way of telling which > wireless driver they need, or whether their card is supported at all. Indeed, which especially with newer laptops often enough leads to "sorry we don't support that one yet .." People really need something to refer to - beyond the supported hardware notes - to guide purchasing of newer (or indeed older) laptops for use with FreeBSD. > The results of a detection program could be submitted to a web page > which others could check. I vote that you be permitted to proceed :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 10:08:11 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A716AF43 for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 621CE2EF7 for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.29] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <guru@unixarea.de>) id 1XBhqb-00019B-68; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:08:01 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s6SA7waY002096; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:07:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s6SA7v1Y002095; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:07:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:07:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell E6330 Message-ID: <20140728100757.GA2079@La-Habana> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> References: <20140727092601.GA1719@La-Habana> <53D4E7D1.7060806@borderworlds.dk> <20140727131605.GA2402@La-Habana> <CAJ-Vmonse0k4+HAhBKgcA1k54CHUdXvSaWyVCsTRJbNtUQT7NA@mail.gmail.com> <20140727184017.GA1269@La-Habana> <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407271252000.21745@wonkity.com> <20140728190516.C60345@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140728190516.C60345@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.29 Cc: Bytecamp Support <support@bytecamp.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD <freebsd-mobile.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:08:11 -0000 El dÃa Monday, July 28, 2014 a las 07:43:45PM +1000, Ian Smith escribió: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:03:20 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > El dÃa Sunday, July 27, 2014 a las 10:56:26AM -0700, Adrian Chadd escribió: > > > > > >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops > > >> > > >> Please add it and all the details you have! > > > > > > I went to the page (and I will later add the details of the bunch of > > > laptops and netbooks I have), but ... there are 11 (eleven!!!) laptops > > > only :-( > > > > > > the page I was talking about, the laptop compat list, had hundreds, I > > > think; the page is down for years now and I tried to get in contact to > > > the folks running the database with web frontend to get at least the > > > data in some structured way and put them somewhere on my web space... > > Matthias, might you ask again? At least you speak the language, and > yes, it would be very good to recover that data. Sure it was a bit > overwhelmed by drive-by spammers in its latter years, but anyone with a > handle on (say) phpmyadmin could likely clean that data up in a day. > > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd > > > > DNS is not resolving for it now. Several years ago, it had been down > > for a while, but I managed to contact the admin and they restarted it. > > There were problems with spammers, but it was often useful. > > I've been trying there every maybe few months for the last year, or so. > The domain is still registered, both bsdgroup.de and laptop.bsdgroup.de > (cname www.bsdgroup.de) are in DNS, but haven't responded for .. ages. > > .... I have tried several times to mail the folks of bsdgroup.de, last in March this year. I even contacted the ISP who hosts the DNS laptop.bsdgroup.de to kindly forward my request to the owner of the zone (cc'ed). The ISP did so, but I never got any answer. I will try again, if someone has a mail addr or a phone to call to. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign
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