Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:34:08 +0200 From: David DEMELIER <demelier.david@gmail.com> To: Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server in base Message-ID: <AANLkTinPMJiMV9ZkSMpu=tBancDV-=myv4P5ckUrZUk4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <slrni9sp90.22ac.saper@saper.info> References: <20100910234830.87641e07.ray@ddteam.net> <4C8ACE52.8060000@FreeBSD.org> <AANLkTinkJ182=GFTdWW_0OAT6rfoRJPBxnzMyukCeYnR@mail.gmail.com> <20100915.082513.802140508206832836.imp@bsdimp.com> <slrni9sp90.22ac.saper@saper.info>
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2010/9/25 Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info>: >>> M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > >>: I agree but like Aleksandr said, almost 70% of dhcp code is already in >>: base so adding 1Mb of dhcpd code wouldn't be too much. I like the idea >>: to keep some parts in the ports tree and move out from the base. >> >> Yea. =C2=A0I agree too. =C2=A0Just because BIND was EOLd in 6 isn't a gr= eat >> argument against dhcp server. =C2=A0Most of the code is there anyway, an= d >> it isn't evolving as fast as BIND. >> >> It would be very convenient to have this particular thing in the base, >> and we shouldn't be too dogmatic about never having any new 3rd party >> things in the base. =C2=A0After all, we just added more compression >> utilities to the base, and nobody said a peep. =C2=A0This is analogous: = we >> have good opportunity to integrate into the system, and users benefit >> from that integration. > > As a road-warrior consultant I really value having things like > bootpd, tftpd, bootparamd and similar software always there. > Many times I wished dhcpd was there, too. > > Another typical use - FreeBSD makes a good small network router out > of the box (PPP, NAT, ipfw, WLAN AP, DNS are there, dhcpd - missing). > > I am not sure about the whole "modularization" goal - I think > the relatively monolythic nature is one of the FreeBSD's merits. > > For example, it's good to have NFSv4, Kerberos and required > userland daemons packaged in the base. I don't want to have > those done separately in a modular way (although Heimdal > we have is older then what their current trunk is). > We got stuck on connecting Linux boxes via NFSv4 to Solaris > and BSD because one of the userland modules in Linux was terribly > out of date and authenticating the user w/Kerberos was not possible. > > As we build a more complex networking landscape with VIMAGE and > friends I think that the benefits of better integration of dhcpd > in the base system (rc.d, rc.conf...) may outweigh its costs > (maintenance, bloat, etc.). > > //Marcin > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > I agree that for some people it will be completely useless, but if we can disable it in src.conf everyone will be happy. Since FreeBSD is great for a router it's really fast to make a full working server without installing anything else. I agree for the 70% part of dhcp which is already present. In any case, src.conf(5) is still working and usable, isn't it? Kind regards, --=20 Demelier David
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