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Date:      Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:07:52 +0900
From:      Kenjiro Cho <kjc@csl.sony.co.jp>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        brian@Awfulhak.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Improper sharing of modem bandwidth 
Message-ID:  <199810130807.RAA11582@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:01 %2B1000." <199810130541.PAA12787@godzilla.zeta.org.au> 

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Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> said:

  > Surely, once the packet queueing delay is reduced, we need to reduce
  > the tty delay.   The current kernel doesn't have ioctls for the
  > buffer size but slip uses a smaller tty buffer and has a better
  > response time than ppp.

>> User ppp is behind a _lot_ of output buffering, including (at speeds >=
>> 57600 Kbps) a 4KB tty buffer (up from 2KB in FreeBSD-2.2).  Perhaps the
>> increase from 2KB to 4KB is especially significant when the MTU is 1500.

Hmmm, when I tried, user ppp on a 200MHz PentiumPro apparently had no
problem filling up 2x 57600bps with small (~100) output buffers.

However, I monitored the throughput inside the ppp program and didn't
directly observe the kernel buffers.

--Kenjiro

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