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Date:      Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:46:24 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ps on 4.0-current 
Message-ID:  <199911240546.VAA00843@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:37:34 CST." <19991123183733.A21142@dan.emsphone.com> 

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> In the last episode (Nov 23), Lyndon Nerenberg said:
> > After you verify that this change isn't going to break things that
> > assume they can see the *argv list via ps(1). I.e. lightning bolts
> > that do 'kill -MUMBLE `ps -ax|grep foo`'. Which may not be elegant
> > style, but sometimes is the only workable solution.
> 
> That won't be affected, because anyone that has kill rights to the
> process will also see the full processname.  Now that I think about it,
> I can't come up with a case where this is really bad.  If you're doing
> ps'es with intent to kill arbitrary processes (in the name of debugging
> or whatever), you're probably already root.

This was discussed close to death before the changes were committed, 
and the current behaviour (restricted access) has been agreed by 
general consensus to be the most appropriate.

Making this behaviour tunable would be bad; it adds another option 
increasing complexity, and with the proposed default in most cases an 
admin tightening up a system would never know about it in the first 
place, rendering it useless.

I'd strongly recommend leaving things they way they are.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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