Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:01:38 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Doc BoF at EuroBSDCon Message-ID: <20041204200138.09199f8e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041204093120.GA581@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20041128202656.GL750@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20041202221228.GG78684@abigail.blackend.org> <20041203123606.100fa863@localhost> <200412031329.34102.zettel@acm.org> <20041203165704.400243a3@localhost> <20041204093120.GA581@nosferatu.blackend.org>
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:31:20 +0100 Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 04:57:04PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > [...] > > > > Not really sure what the best way to go about getting things > > done around here would be other than: > > > > Post a list of tasks of mixed sizes, > > Request people (people, not committers not contributors) to grab a task, > > Commit completed work after some minor/major review, > > As one task is completed another is grabbed up. > > > > Hopefully some others will chime in here and let me know how > > they feel about this. Perhaps we should 'elect' a temporary > > project manager and just start getting things done. Perhaps > > that is a bad idea. I don't know, what does everybody > > think? > > > > I know some TODO lists/pages, let's take one example: the 5.3-R TODO > list, when Hiroki and I wrote it we removed some items to avoid a too > long and scary list, some items still haven't found a person to > work on... > We can do circles during a long time, the problem is not having someone > at the top of the pyramid etc., the problem is having people really > doing the work. From my point of view this thread is useless, I'd > prefer to see some real patches instead of long talks in the wind. As > you said (in something I did not quote) there's quite no risk of work > collision, so it's easy for anyone to find something that needs to be > fixed and work on it. And the more I read this thread, the more I think > we are trying to point the structure of docproj (persons) as responsible > of the current "bad" shape of the doc/ tree. Frankly, the doc/ tree > shape is not that bad, I'd even add it is in a good shape according to > readers complaints. So let's improve the docs in committing things and > not in thinking about "what might be a good way of think to find good > ideas to improve things" (hehe I'm not sure my last sentence is in > english). > To be serious, if you want some task/todo lists and some directions, the > doceng@ may take care of this, and since the doceng@ is not busy that > should not be a problem for this team to work on this task. Good! Have Murray stop doing random list additions along with non-discussed (rude) commits and pull him back into the silence that is doceng@ and have it go from there. Thank you -- Tom Rhodes
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