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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:55:23 -0400
From:      Nathan Vidican <nathan@vidican.com>
To:        Jud <judmarc@fastmail.fm>
Cc:        freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)
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ia64 is for Intel Itanium - NOT Core 2 Duo. The core 2 duo extends it's 64
bit instructions from the Intel EMT64 extensions. You can read up on this
topic further at Wikipedia if you'd like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT64#Intel_64

To summarize though - AMD64 is the platform you're looking for. Since AMD
was first to come to market with an i386 compatible instruction set
supporting 64bit addressing, you'll find a lot of systems reference 'amd64'
as the platform.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jud <judmarc@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, "Brandon Gooch"
> <jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke
> > <arvid.warnecke@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I
> > > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the
> > > hardware will be supported that well.
> >
> > Here's an excellent place to start your research:
> >
> > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook
>
> I'd posted a question about this to this list a couple of weeks ago, but
> without a descriptive title.  Apologies for that, and hoping a more
> descriptive title plus a more detailed message on my part elicits more
> specific answers.
>
> I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core
> 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure
> that's not problematic).  I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4
> and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt.
>
> I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win.  Here are
> a couple of questions that arose during my research:
>
> - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD.  My reading on the
> FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for
> the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64, and IIRC the website references indicated
> problems running X.Org on that platform.  Additionally, problems are
> mentioned with various (unnamed) other ports.  I do want to use FreeBSD
> as a desktop.  Is the info about problems with X.Org and other ports on
> ia-64 current and correct, ruling out its use as a desktop on the
> MacBook Pro for now?  Am I correct in thinking from what I've read that
> the amd-64 version of FreeBSD would not work with the Core 2 Duo?  Does
> this leave 32-bit FreeBSD as the only version I could reasonably install
> to use as a desktop on this machine?
>
> - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in
> the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the
> Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD
> and include it as an option in its boot menu?  Or is there something
> else I've got to do?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on these questions.
> Comments on other 'gotcha' items I may have missed are also welcome.
>
> Jud
> --
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