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Date:      Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:39:19 +0100
From:      Michel Talon <michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
To:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware? (Update)
Message-ID:  <20010110173919.A311@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
In-Reply-To: <179010000.979069635@grolsch.ai>
References:  <20010109130439.A48418@grumpy.dyndns.org> <179010000.979069635@grolsch.ai>

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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:47:15PM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
> > Hard to say if the problem is the hub or the Intel card. But seemingly
> > the combination. Changing either to a different model and/or brand
> > solves the problem?
> 
> I tried 2 hubs, one claims to be a cheap 8816TPC, the other NetGear DS108. 
> Both give problems. Replacing the Intel card with a 3Com or SMC solves the 
> problem. Of course I've tried multiple cables as well.
> 
> Maybe this is relevant. The DS108 actually is a dual speed hub. IIRC it has 
> a 10 Mbit bus and a 100 Mbit bus, connected with a little switch. The 
> machine I'm testing against has a 10Mbit card. I tried forcing to Intel to 
> 10Mbit and tried to transfer the file. It stalls after a couple of 
> megabytes. I then forced the Intel card to 100Mbit mode and tried the 

Just as a comparison point. I am at the moment playing installing 3 machines
with resp. FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. All 3 are connected by a small
ultracheap 10MB/s hub to the net, and have Intel 10/100 cards. The FreeBSD
and OpenBSD downloads were fine, but the NetBSD stalled horribly. I have tried
all settings of half-duplex and full duplex without getting anything. At home
i have a 3Com and i had similar stalls but solved by setting half-duplex.

The settings that work are 10baseT/UTP.

-- 
Michel Talon


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