Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:34:21 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: FreeBSD advocacy list <FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Linux and Intel's annoucement Message-ID: <19981003133421.A2176@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981002214258.04211690@mail.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 09:54:18PM -0600 References: <Your <4.1.19981002204214.0420a940@mail.lariat.org> <10999.907385320@time.cdrom.com> <4.1.19981002214258.04211690@mail.lariat.org>
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At the risk of inducing Jordan's ire, I'm cross-posting this message to -chat (as Bcc:) and -advocacy. Please reply only to -advocacy. I'm doing this because I think an unpleasant situation is developing, and I'd like the personal view of as many FreeBSD users as possible. If *you* think this is important, please let me know what you think. On Friday, 2 October 1998 at 21:54:18 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 08:28 PM 10/2/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >> It's interesting that you should say something like this, because I >> myself was just puzzling over the great disparity between your recent >> postings on the mailing lists (or your usenet contributions) and your >> print advocacy. When you're writing for the likes of Sm@rt Reseller, >> for example, you seem to understand just fine where the right balance >> between passion and logic lies and you generally make a pretty >> convincing argument which manages both to be readable and to convey >> the information you're trying to impart to the reader. As a body of >> communication, what you've done for print journalism has been just fine >> and is to be commended. >> >> When it's time to go home to your PC, however, you apparently drop >> your logic cap into a desk drawer and lock the door, off to give the >> more passionate side of your nature a turn in the uninhibited disco >> lights of various public mailing lists. > > Not so. In print, I am doing appropriate explanation and advocacy. > On these lists, I am projecting trends. And I am stating, quite > bluntly, that my minor and little-read recommendations are nowhere > near enough to stop FreeBSD's current slide toward insignificance > at the hands of the Linux zealots (who have managed to gain the > undivided mindshare of such prominent folk as Nick Petreley, > Nader's "Appraising Microsoft" team, etc.) Your're very much entitled to your opinion. On the other hand, when you go out on lists like that, many people will consider you to be a typical FreeBSD user, which I think you are not. Both Jordan and I have repeatedly stated that we think you are harming FreeBSD more than you're helping it (though we both appreciate the good you do, as Jordan shows above). We could be wrong. Question to everybody who's seen Brett's messages: should he continue, or should he stop? If the consensus is that he should continue, I'll shut up (that places no similar requirement on Jordan, of course :-) Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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