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Date:      Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:10:05 -0800 (PST)
From:      "W.H.Scholten" <whs@xs4all.nl>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: misc/21675: Better and more disktab entries for MO drives
Message-ID:  <200011071810.KAA49546@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR misc/21675; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "W.H.Scholten" <whs@xs4all.nl>
To: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: misc/21675: Better and more disktab entries for MO drives
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:57:45 +0000

 Bruce Evans wrote:
 > 
 > On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, W.H.Scholten wrote:
 > 
 > >  Correction for the disktab diff (se was 2048 for a 512 byte medium in
 > >  the 230_max entry) and use of -m 0 in the newfs example. Plain diff (to
 > >  the original disktab entry of e.g. fbsd 3.3R or 4.1R) attached.
 > 
 > See a recent thread about fixing disklabel(8) (actually about making
 > disklabel(8) easier to use).  There is no need for disktab entries
 > for drives that report their size to the driver, except possibly for
 > cloning a large number of identical drives with the same customized
 > label (the min* entries for floppies are a good example of this), but
 > customized labels belong in customized disktab files, not in the
 > standard one (the min* entries belong since they are used by the system
 > for building releases).
 
 Well, as I said in my first report, this stuff could be put in the fbsd
 documentation; there seems to be almost none. A problem is also bad
 disktab entries that appear in various places and, not willing to dive
 into the disklabel stuff, people (like me) try and they don't always
 work, least not in current releases where disklabel seems more picky and
 the error messages it spits out are unhelpfull to say the least (Weird:
 writing such a label to a brand new disk works, writing it to a disk
 that has been used before fails...). So, good examples are needed. Place
 it in disktab or the docs (see also below about the 230_max/640_max
 entries).
 
 > >  +# ---- 90 mm magneto optical disk formats (dedicated disk): ----
 > >  +# Prepare a disk as follows (e.g. using device da0):
 > >  +#   disklabel -B -w -r da0 mo230
 > >  +# or:
 > >  +#   disklabel -w -r da0 mo640
 > >  +# (the -B flag currrently doesn't work for 640 MB media).
 > 
 > The problem seems to be in disklabel(8).
 > 
 > >  +# and then:
 > >  +#   newfs -t 0 -u 0 -m 0 da0a
 > >  +# (t=0 and u=0 means the values from disklabel will be used for # tracks and
 > >  +# # sectors).
 > 
 > Are t and u worth forcing to the physical values for mo disks?  Are the
 > physical values actually physical?  I force t and u for floppies, but the
 
 It makes a difference. If I don't use -t/-u then not all of the disk is
 used with the 230_max/640_max disklabel entries. It's nothing to do with
 physical formats, just using all available space on a disk (that's what
 the 230_max/640_max entries are for, as the CHS format specified by the
 drive does not use all available space).
 
 Wouter
 
 


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