Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:12:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> To: Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <3B4B3798.31B4B8E1@mindspring.com> References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@bellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> <3B4A0124.26025FB5@iowna.com> <3B4A1423.E8E365E@mindspring.com> <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <3B4A7D9C.A64230D9@softweyr.com> <3B4B07DE.4801D208@iowna.com>
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Bill Moran wrote: > Now, I've never used partition magic, but I (personally) > find the FreeBSD partition program in sysinstall to be the > easiest one I've ever used. What should be changed to make > it easier? 1) Buy a new laptop 2) Make the Windows partition smaller 3) Install FreeBSD #1 & #3 are doable, even though #3 is counter to all the training we put people through to get them Windows savvy. #2 can not be done in the FreeBSD partition program, without destroying your Windows partition, but Partition Magic can do it, no problem. > I disagree. I use sysinstall constantly. There's no easier > way to install packages. ??? You suggested that people keep up to date using "cvsup"; but doing that won't result in new categories showing up in "sysinstall", nor in your local packages archive being updated to match your "cvsup" sources. > > OTOH, if you really want to take a stab at a FreeBSD > > problem that will make you famous should you succeed, > > we'd all like to see a lovely, simple installer that > > will run on both direct attached VGA and a serial console, > > is lovely and well thought out, and intuitive to use. > > Extra points if you can run it over X across the network. > > Obviously, these improvements would be good. Part of this is concurrent version management. Right now, I can't make concurrent distribution images for things like PicoBSD. If I can install components on a one-off basis, I can build a "PicoBSD" cafeteria-style. For the serial console to work, the 2.88M boot floppy image needs to include a "/boot.config" with a "-P" in it, so that it comes up on video and keyboard if a keyboard is present, but comes up on serial, if one is not (the "-P" approach isn't perfect; as noted in the handbook, the probe code can fail to probe the keyboard unless it's a 101/102 key or better: it should use the BIOS instead, as the BIOS always gets it right). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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