Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:08:36 -0500 From: "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net> To: Remy Nonnenmacher <remy@boostworks.com> Cc: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx, jgowdy@home.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x86-64 Hammer and IA64 Itainium Message-ID: <20010426180836.C88522@peorth.iteration.net> In-Reply-To: <200104181422.f3IELwC11439@luxren2.boostworks.com>; from remy@boostworks.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:24:18PM %2B0200 References: <20010417205711.C64757@cec.wustl.edu> <200104181422.f3IELwC11439@luxren2.boostworks.com>
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:24:18PM +0200, Remy Nonnenmacher scribbled: | On 17 Apr, Andrew Hesford wrote: | > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:49:04PM -0700, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: | For sure. Look at how it's pretty more easy to use an ARM or MIPS core | to handle gluelessly the PCI, SDRAM, Flash etc... and just add specific | components for the analogic interface side. And what happens to the overhead of intercommunication between these devices? :) ... Infiniband ... PCI-X Btw, we already use ARM/MIPS stuff in many PCI applications... NIC chipsets are essentially specialized processors. Think about about the new Intel NIC's with i960 built-in | X86 (and -64) is going to be just die hard PC and workstations where | deadly wrong past must be taken into account at the price of wasted | power. Futur is more than probably Itanium and alike for servers CPUs And what's so deadly wrong about all the new features of Itanium and KA-64? | and a bunch of ARMs for low-level I/O tasks. Back to imagination. (Take | a look at 0.15um copper process FPGAs with embeded ARM at Altera, for | example, and you will see why no one, in the futur, will never ever need | a proprietary and undocumented 'server class' SCSI or network card). Please make Altera/Xilinx make their FPGA programming software freely available. | It would be really interesting to have a server-class FreeBSD SMPng | version and, in conjonction, an highly portable and small Pico-bsd like | one to animate the embeded processors. Please define "server-class" SMPng :) You do realize that, in the embedded systems world, sometimes we use SMP, right? For example, multiple DSP ASIC's in the same router..... -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@iteration.net | keichii@freebsd.org | | http://iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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