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Date:      Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:14:41 +0100
From:      Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: can we resurrect linux-firefox-1.5 ?
Message-ID:  <20070116221441.9afd899a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
In-Reply-To: <20070116110935.A8351@xorpc.icir.org>
References:  <20070116010645.A94849@xorpc.icir.org> <20070116193722.fee4defe.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20070116110935.A8351@xorpc.icir.org>

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:09:35 -0800
Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org> wrote:

> the many times i tried (up to a few months ago and with 1.0.5 or
> 1.0.7) it crashed randomly while browsing, within a few hours of use,
> and this was enough for me to give up.

First: I find that running native firefox _without_ the flash plugin
improves the stability a lot. I don't really *need* flash, so I can
live with that. YMMV.
Second; firefox crashes happens a lot rarer now that they useed to do.
This is from my main workstation:
tingo@kg-work$ uname -a
FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat
Nov 18 13:59:20 CET 2006
root@kg-work.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G  i386
tingo@kg-work$ uptime
10:03PM  up 29 days, 21:23, 15 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.42, 0.53
tingo@kg-work$ ls -l /var/log/mess*
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7873 Jan 14 23:55 /var/log/messages
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11134 Jan  1 23:00 /var/log/messages.0.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   6887 Nov 14 21:00 /var/log/messages.1.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   4194 Nov  1 01:00 /var/log/messages.2.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8962 Oct 23 18:00 /var/log/messages.3.bz2
tingo@kg-work$ bzgrep firefox /var/log/mess*
/var/log/messages.0.bz2:Nov 18 11:43:26 kg-work kernel: pid 2180
(firefox-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 (core
dumped) /var/log/messages.0.bz2:Dec  8 19:31:58 kg-work kernel: pid
22038 (firefox-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 (core dumped)

Third, some time ago (perhaps with version 2.0.0?) firefox gained the
"restore session" capability, which also helps.

> Additionally,  i could not find a way to make the flash plugin
> work, which is a major annoyance given the amount of flash content
> that one finds in the services i use daily (some work related too).

If linux-firefox isn't working for youhere, I really don't have any
good suggestions. I would prefer that a stable, working flash plugin
for native firefox, which would install with a simple portinstall. 
A man can dream, can't he?

> firefox is not one of the most reliable applications around,
> but these days using a browser is a necessary evil for just too many
> things (including 'paperwork' that you have to do for your job, bank,
> bills and so on).

There was an informal survey in a norwegian newgroup last week; it
seems that most (but not all) Norwegian internet-banking (web banking)
solutions work fine with Firefox, Opera and other browsers.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen,
Norway




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