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Date:      Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:32:54 -0400
From:      Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
To:        'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Why does TCP Wrappers require /etc/hosts.deny (was: tcp wrapp ers)
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Did you update any part of the system between reboots?

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> Sent:	Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:28 AM
> To:	Christopher Michaels; gerti@bitart.com
> Cc:	FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	RE: Why does TCP Wrappers require /etc/hosts.deny (was: tcp
> wrappers)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>     It works, but I have notice something, yesterday I had to reboot my
> system because a fsck thing, and it started to work with the
> /etc/hosts.allow file, I have also erased the /etc/hosts.deny file, and
> everything its working now why its this happening???, why this stange
> behavior???, Im really confused here, its this a "BUG" with tcp wrappers,
> a
> failing part of 3.2 Release???, its the inetd problem wich its causing
> this???
> 
> Maybe you can try it your self, just rebot your server and it will work (I
> think, this is what happened to me).
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> 
> Ales
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; <gerti@bitart.com>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 4:06 PM
> Subject: Why does TCP Wrappers require /etc/hosts.deny (was: tcp wrappers)
> 
> 
> > I wish I could answer that question.  Does your hosts.allow not work at
> all,
> > or just not for deny's?
> >
> > I fought with it for a couple hours and was able to finally get the
> > following to work, so I suggested it to you.  (this is from memory, it
> may
> > be slightly different).
> >
> > /etc/hosts.allow:
> > ALL : .domain.com
> >
> > /etc/hosts.deny:
> > telnetd : ALL
> >
> > I haven't done a buildworld in probably a month or two, so maybe it was
> > something that was addresses.  I know my kernel is current, but I'm
> 99.9%
> > positive that has no bearing on it.
> >
> > Btw, according to the man pages (man 5 hosts_access, and man 5
> > hosts_options) we should be able to put everything in /etc/hosts.allow.
> > (although it's counter-intuitive).
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 7:32 PM
> > > To: gerti@bitart.com
> > > Cc: Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > >
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > >     Now I have 2 more questions:
> > >
> > > 1 How do I fix this inetd problem in my production system???
> > > 2 Why the /etc/hosts.deny file had to be created and works, and the
> > > /etc/hosts.allow doesnt work nor even its the default file where you
> > > should
> > > deny things.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ales
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gerd Knops <gerti@bitart.com>
> > > To: Alejandro Ramirez <ales@megared.net.mx>
> > > Cc: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>; FreeBSD Questions
> > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 3:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: tcp wrappers
> > >
> > >
> > > > Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the thing, I have erased al the content in the
> > > /etc/hosts.allow
> > > > > file, I couldnt get in to the telmex server at this time, but I
> have
> > > an
> > > > > account (for testing purposes) in another server hosted by a good
> > > friend
> > > > > called Thomas Mullaney (Thanks Thomas), I have created the
> > > /etc/hosts.deny
> > > > > file, and the following lines are in there:
> > > > >
> > > > > telnetd: 209.58.142.2
> > > > > telnetd: .mullaney.org
> > > > > telnetd: r2d2.mullaney.org
> > > > >
> > > > > The first line its the IP address for the server of the line #3,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > second line its self explanatory, and it still doesnt work, first
> I
> > > tried
> > > > > with the second line, then I started to change it for the other
> lines,
> > > > > until I had the three lines in the file, and still doesnt work,
> what
> > > am
> > > I
> > > > > missing here???
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW It only worked 2 times, then stopped working???
> > > > >
> > > > > Aug 25 13:17:20 unix inetd[1838]: refused connection from
> > > > > r2d2.mullaney.org, ser
> > > > > vice telnet (tcp)
> > > > > Aug 25 13:17:29 unix inetd[3276]: refused connection from
> > > > > r2d2.mullaney.org, ser
> > > > > vice telnet (tcp)
> > > > > Aug 25 14:08:22 unix login: login from r2d2.mullaney.org on ttyp1
> as
> > > ???
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW I havent installed the port, because the release notes says
> that
> > > its
> > > > > already built in the system.
> > > > >
> > > > FreeBSD 3.2 Release has a bug in inted when you restart it with
> -HUP.
> > > inetd
> > > > still works, but something goes wrong with the tcp wrapper
> configuration
> > > > files.
> > > >
> > > > I know it got fixed in 'Current', but I can't remember if the fix
> made
> > > it
> > > > into 'Stable' yet.
> > > >
> > > > Gerd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:27 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > For that last time that you logged into the machine. Did you
> check
> > > to
> > > see
> > > > > > if there was anything in /var/log/messages?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try this (just to satisfy my curiosity).  Put the following line
> in
> > > your
> > > > > > /etc/hosts.deny file.
> > > > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leave /etc/hosts.allow empty (comment out the allow all line).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know if that works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:57 PM
> > > > > > > To: Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christopher,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats funny, the log message that I received was at 03:37:05
> a.m.
> > > of
> > > > > > > today,
> > > > > > > the line:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx : deny
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I added it today at 9:30 am in the morning in order to make
> more
> > > tests
> > > > > > > because I already saw this message in the /var/log/message
> file,
> > > since
> > > > > > > yesterday, until today at 9:30, the only lines that where in
> the
> > > > > > > /etc/hosts.allow file  where:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > telnetd : .itesm.mx : deny
> > > > > > > ALL : ALL : allow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also telneted to a server under that domain, and telneted
> again
> > > to
> > > my
> > > > > > > server, then I use the "w" command and see the complete domain
> > > name
> > > for
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > server "gda.itesm.mx", but its not rejecting the connection.
> Do
> I
> > > have
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > grab the complete set of adresses they use to block the
> access???,
> > > so
> > > > > why
> > > > > > > its not working with the domain name???.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ales
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD
> Questions
> > > > > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:30 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok.  You don't need to sighup inetd.  From one of your
> previous
> > > > > postings
> > > > > > > > you're getting the following error:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aug 25 03:37:05 unix inetd[82105]: warning:
> /etc/hosts.allow,
> > > line
> > > > > > > > 13: can't verify hostname:
> > > > > > > > gethostbyname(customer18-197.telmex.net.mx) failed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What appears to be happening, is that since the address
> can't
> be
> > > > > > > verified
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be from that domain it is not denying.  That error, if you
> > > didn't
> > > > > know,
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > saying it cannot resolve "customer18-197.telmex.net.mx".
> They
> > > appear
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > have DNS resolution problems.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I would suggest is to see if you can find out the range
> of
> > > ip
> > > > > > > addresses
> > > > > > > > they use and try denying that, e.g.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > telnetd : 200.33.146. : deny
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > See if that works.  Also I do not know if there is a way to
> deny
> > > all
> > > > > > > > addresses that do not resolve.  I will look into that,
> because
> > > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > know myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This are the only 3 lines that I have uncommented in my
> > > > > > > > > /etc/hosts.allow
> > > > > > > > > file:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx : deny
> > > > > > > > > telnetd : .itesm.mx : deny
> > > > > > > > > ALL : ALL : allow
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the rest of the file its commented. I have telnet accounts
> in
> > > > > servers
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > those domains, and after I put this lines, and SIGHUP
> inetd,
> I
> > > can
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > log
> > > > > > > > > in via telnet to my server from this servers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ales
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD
> > > Questions
> > > > > > > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:02 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe if you posted what was listed in your hosts.allow
> file
> > > it
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > > us.
> > > > > > > > > > Also, what aspect of it is NOT working?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 7:12 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I know that tcp wrappers are included in 3.2 Release,
> so
> I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > modified
> > > > > > > > > > > the /etc/hosts.allow file, and HUP the inetd daemon,
> but
> > > it
> > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > > > work,
> > > > > > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > > > there some documentation that could help me, or do you
> > > know
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > missing???
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ales
> > > > > > > > > > >
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