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Date:      Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:36:56 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Josef Karthauser <joe@freebsd.org>, hackers@freebsd.org, Jeremie Le Hen <jeremie@le-hen.org>, fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nullfs and named pipes.
Message-ID:  <20070216143656.GM39168@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20070216125007.D38234@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <20070204023711.GA3393@genius.tao.org.uk> <20070215135750.GR64768@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <20070215152259.GA2950@genius.tao.org.uk> <20070215153135.GI39168@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20070216125007.D38234@fledge.watson.org>

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On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:54:39PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Kostik Belousov wrote:
>=20
> >On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 03:22:59PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote:
> >>On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:57:50PM +0100, Jeremie Le Hen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Note that all processes within a jail can only intefere with processes=
=20
> >>>from another jail or host as if they were on different machines.  This=
=20
> >>>means they can communicate through PF_INET for instance but not PF_LOC=
AL.
> >>
> >>You might think so!  However that's not what's going on here.
> >>
> >>The named pipe/nullfs issue is nothing to do with jails.  It's just tha=
t=20
> >>nullfs is broken with respect to named pipes as I've previously reporte=
d.=20
> >>However with this patch:
> >>
> >>    cvs diff: Diffing .
> >>    Index: null_subr.c
> >>    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >>    RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/fs/nullfs/null_subr.c,v
> >>    retrieving revision 1.48.2.1
> >>    diff -u -r1.48.2.1 null_subr.c
> >>    --- null_subr.c 13 Mar 2006 03:05:17 -0000      1.48.2.1
> >>    +++ null_subr.c 14 Feb 2007 00:02:28 -0000
> >>    @@ -235,6 +235,8 @@
> >>	    xp->null_vnode =3D vp;
> >>	    xp->null_lowervp =3D lowervp;
> >>	    vp->v_type =3D lowervp->v_type;
> >>    +       if (vp->v_type =3D=3D VSOCK || vp->v_type =3D=3D VFIFO)
> >>    +               vp->v_un =3D lowervp->v_un;
> >
> >I'm wondering is some reference counting needed there ?
>=20
> Yes, I find this a bit worrying also, but I don't know enough about how=
=20
> nullfs works to reason about it.  What happens when a vnode in the bottom=
=20
> layer has its on-disk reference count drop to zero -- is the vnode in the=
=20
> top layer invalidated somehow?

Vnode reclamation from lower layer cannot do anithing for corresponding nul=
lfs
vnode, but that vnode has reference from nullfs vnode.
On the other hand, can forced unmount proceed for lower layer ?

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