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Date:      Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:43:09 +0200
From:      "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de>
To:        Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Apache Software Foundation Server compromised, resecured. (fwd)
Message-ID:  <20010601204309.K10477@mail.webmonster.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0106010855400.679-100000@localhost>; from brian@collab.net on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 08:56:44AM -0700
References:  <xzpvgmguvn6.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <Pine.BSF.4.31.0106010855400.679-100000@localhost>

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Brian Behlendorf(brian@collab.net)@2001.06.01 08:56:44 +0000:
> On 1 Jun 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net> writes:
> > > The shell machine at SF didn't have reverse DNS (or at least it wasn't
> > > recorded in the wtmp), so you might want to look for 216.136.171.252 =
(the
> > > machine our friend came in from) or maybe even 216.136/24.
> >
> > I hope you meant 216.136.171/24, and not 216.136/16:
>=20
> Er, yeah; preferably someone could get a list of IP addresses SF.net has
> ever had public shell machines on.
as a direct consequence of the incident it would be a prudent choice of
the sourceforge folks to have already done it. that said (i do not know
anyone at their site personally) could somebody with good connections
the them propagate this list to -security, please?

>=20
> > Oh, and .252 does have reverse DNS:
> >
> > des@des ~% host 216.136.171.252
> > 252.171.136.216.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge=
.net
>=20
> OK, but it wasn't recorded in my wtmp, so I suspect it might not get
> recorded in others'.
reverse dns is not a security measure. it is the opposite ;-)
dns can be easily manipulated in thousand ways.
one should never rely on reverse dns or dns in general.

/k

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