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Date:      Thu, 30 May 2013 17:21:17 +0200
From:      Pietro Paolini <pulsarpietro@aol.com>
To:        Joe <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: VIMAGE
Message-ID:  <627BE01F-08C6-4A79-A6DC-32B7C65B6DA7@aol.com>
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On May 30, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Joe <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Pietro Paolini wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I am a new bye on the FreeBSD and I am looking at the VIMAGE features =
experiencing some problems.
>> I added the options :
>> VIMAGE
>> if_bridge
>> and I removed
>> STCP
>> then I recompiled my kernel and install it.
>> After that, following this tutorial =
http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/eurobsdcon07_tutorial.pdf I tried the =
"Exercise 2" which consist on the following commands:
>> vimage -c n1
>> vimage -c n2
>> ngctl mkpeer efface ether ether
>> ngctl mkpeer efface ether ether
>> ngctl mkpeer em0: bridge lower link0
>> ngctl name em0:lower bridge0
>> ngctl connect em0: bridge0: upper link1
>> ngctl connect ngeth0: bridge0: ether link2
>> ngctl connect ngeth1: bridge0: ether link3
>> vimage -i n1 ngeth0 e0
>> But my virtual interface on the n1 vimage does not receive any packet =
from the external network while I can see the packet go out from it.
>> For instance using DHCP, e0 on n1 sends DHCP packets but it does not =
receive the answers (which are send, I verified it from wireshark), in =
adding
>> the ARP request for his IP address (if I try to add it statically) =
are not received then it can not answer.
>> At the end of the line the question is: how can I make this "virtual =
network" and the external real network be able to communicate ?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Pietro.
>=20
> 1. That link is from 2007. So very much has changed since then.
> There are more current links on the internet about this subject. Most =
are for 8.X releases.
>=20
> 2. If your running 8.2-RELEASE or 9.1-RELEASE all you need to add is =
"options vimage" statement to your kernel source and recompile.
>=20
> 3. There are 2 networking methods available for creating vnet/vimage =
jail networks, if_bridge/epair and netgraph. The if_bridge/epair method =
is far simpler to config and use then the netgraph method.
>=20
> 4. There are 2 methods of jail setup, the rc.d method where your jail =
definition parameters go into the hosts rc.conf and the jail(8) method =
where you can place each jails definition parameter in separate files.
>=20
> 5. There are two very important show stopper PRs on vimage,
> 164763 memory leak and 149050 the rc.d keyword "nojail" problem.
> Vimage is a very long way from prime time usage, thats why it's =
labeled as highly experimental. Host system freezes and page faults are =
common.
>=20
> 6. When it comes to running a firewall in a vnet/vimage jail your =
limited to IPFW and it has limitations. Dummynet and in kernel NAT cause =
system freezes. IPFILTER causes page fault at boot time. PF will run on =
the host but not run in the vnet/vimage jail. Here are a bunch of PRs on =
vimage firewall problems, 143621, 176092, 161094, 176992, 143808, =
148155, 165252, 178480, 178482
>=20
>=20
> Check out these links
>=20
> http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/vimage.shtml
> http://devinteske.com/vimage-jails-on-freebsd-8
> =
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2011-September/0=
00747.html
>=20
> http://bsdbased.com/2009/12/06/freebsd-8-vimage-epair-howto
> http://zewaren.net/site/?q=3Dnode/78
>=20
>=20
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Thanks so much, really interesting and good links but I can't again =
accomplish my task - I followed =
http://bsdbased.com/2009/12/06/freebsd-8-vimage-epair-howto as a base =
tutorial -=20


I would like simulate more client for my PC using this technology, and =
that's my topology:

1 - Two epairs created=20
2 - Two jail created
3 - Assign one intf for jail
4 - Add the real interface to a bridge where I put all the interfaces

-------
JAIL1
0b
-------

-------
JAIL2         =20
1b
-------

-------
HOST
0a
1a
em0 --> REAL
-------

Where {0,1}a is the first pair and {0,1}b is the second and em0 is my =
real interface (it has an IP address), then I got to the problem, I =
tried=20
to :

jexec 2 dhclient epair1b =20

And I can see the DHCP packet with the correct MAC address going out, =
the server reply (I have a sniffer pc) but the transaction does not end =
successfully, what is really strange is that if I attach tcpdump on em0 =
I can NOT see the answer server sends while when I try

dhclient em0=20

I can see the packet going in and out and the DHCP transaction finish =
successfully. Do you have any idea about how can I accomplish my=20
target ? Maybe I am using the wrong technology ?

I would not surprised if I make a error on my configuration but what =
really interest me is if I CAN do that using jail.

Thanks a lot, and in advance ! :-)

Pietro.
>=20





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