Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 19:49:33 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Cc: donegan@quick.net, jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za, jdp@polstra.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current build is now broken.. Message-ID: <199705030249.TAA15482@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 02 May 1997 19:04:16 PDT." <199705030204.TAA09872@phaeton.artisoft.com>
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You failed to take into consideration the culture and level expertise involved. Yes, it is generally true that is good to have problems pointed out however : 1. Some environs quickly forget to tackle problems and chose the easy route of pointing out problems. 2. If you are aware that the individual can help and is lazy by way of just pointing the problem specially when you are up to your ears with the situation then why not help ? 3. Is always easier to point out problems than to contribute. Some companies bypass this level of cultural management and they just simply swamp their brilliant minds with work in the hope of keeping them focus in the process. Not sure how to respond to your question, in lieu of the current spams in the hackers mailing list . Just casually reading the list I see many complaints yet I don't get a real sense of the group banding together to solve problems. The ones that are really working hard are just quietly typing away at the keyboard is one of my guesses or just don't want to par take on the -hackers spamming. As for bug reporting , if I think that the bug reporter can actually fix the bug -- I feel morally obligated to ask for a patch well at least thats my attitude when it comes to public domain work. My guess is that at the rate that things are going on the -hackers list we are surely bound to win some Golden award for the highest noise/ratio in the internet 8) Best Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Terry Lambert : > > > > John, where I work if you bring up a 'problem' or 'issue' guess what - > > > > you own it. > > > > > > That must be remarkably effective in discouraging people from bringing > > > up problems -- no matter how critical or damaging to your employer... > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > Why am I not surprised about your comment? > > > > Actually anything to an extreme is bad . > > > > Just think before you post. > > Well, taking your advice, I thought about it again. > > I still think negative reinforcement for people trying to help you > is a bad thing. I'd rather know about a bug, even if the person > telling me isn't volunteering to fix it; at least I'd be aware of > the bug, and might fix it myself. Kicking people in the head for > telling me about bugs may reduce the number of bugs I get told > about, but it won't mean they aren't there, and I can't personally > fix a bug I don't know is there. > > So I don't understand what you thought was wrong with my comment... > can you explain? > > > Regards, > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers.
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