Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:30 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. Message-ID: <4468A292.207@utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <00d401c67802$ed3be130$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> References: <446786CF.6050807@fromley.net><MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGGEALHHAA.fbsd@a1poweruser.com> <3aaaa3a0605141906k2622e9dawe7e9bf7def72167@mail.gmail.com> <008b01c677fb$c99b4290$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <44684361.5080903@eftel.com> <00d401c67802$ed3be130$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080400070703090609050307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steven Hartland wrote: > Adrian Pavone wrote: >> Steven Hartland wrote: > >> This is why there are options in place that would allow you to >> download the cvsup to one of you computers, likely a server of some >> sort, and your other computers all retrieve the CVSup from this local >> server, significantly speeding up the retrieval time and decreasing >> the load on the primary servers, a win for everyone. If you have >> computers of varying architectures or in seperated geographical >> locations this would not work as worded, but from your wording it >> sounded like you had a local LAN of computers. > > You couldnt be more wrong there even though the cvsup source might > as well be on the local LAN we have such a quick connection to it. > The shear volume of files that have to be checked adds a significant > amount of time to any method to syncing them, from cvsup local rsync > to tar I've tried them all. > I'm trying to figure out if you're really serious here. When I do a fresh install, I install ports from the CD I've burned. The first thing I do after completing the install is install cvsup. Then I cvsup the ports tree *and* src *and* docs. This usually takes about 15 or 20 minutes. Then I install portupgrade. Then I run portupgrade, which upgrades cvsup. Then I set up a periodic/daily task that runs cvsup (cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile). Then I install portaudit, so I will know when a security vulnerability shows up in any of the installed ports. Then I begin installing whatever ports I need for the purpose of the box. The daily cvsup usually takes a minute or two. Where are you getting this "shear volume of files" thing from? *If* you don't install ports during the initial install, *then* cvsup will have to download the entire ports collection, which would certainly take a while, but that would be your choice, rather than a problem with the system. *If* you install ports from the CD (or FTP or whatever your preferred install method is), then the initial cvsup will take a little while (because there's a lot to update), but after that, a daily cvsup will refresh your ports without taking very long or consuming very much bandwidth. *And* you'll be able to rebuild world any time you want, because your sources will be up to date. This seems like common sense to me. Why would you only cvsup once a month and then complain about how long it takes? You *chose* to do it that way. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --------------ms080400070703090609050307 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIOyjCC A9gwggNBoAMCAQICEEHsHz2nFAeWxPbVDN3RD2UwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgcExCzAJBgNV BAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjE8MDoGA1UECxMzQ2xhc3MgMiBQdWJs aWMgUHJpbWFyeSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eSAtIEcyMTowOAYDVQQLEzEoYykg MTk5OCBWZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLiAtIEZvciBhdXRob3JpemVkIHVzZSBvbmx5MR8wHQYDVQQL ExZWZXJpU2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMB4XDTk5MDMzMTAwMDAwMFoXDTA5MDMzMDIzNTk1 OVowgeoxJzAlBgNVBAoTHlRoZSBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIFRleGFzIFN5c3RlbTEfMB0GA1UE 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