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Date:      Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:11:51 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Kip Macy <kip.macy@gmail.com>
Cc:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net, Kip Macy <kmacy@freebsd.org>, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/netinet tcp_ofld.c tcp_ofld.h tcp_var.h toedev.h src/sys/sys socket.h
Message-ID:  <20071214020704.A86532@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <b1fa29170712131748o7020308fsbbc47ede9b8d0c80@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Kip Macy wrote:

> On Dec 13, 2007 5:30 PM, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> wrote Sadly, 
> often the only way to get a real discussion going is to make the immediacy 
> of it relevant. To date I haven't made any material structural changes to 
> TCP, I've only added the hooks that will be needed. As requested by another 
> I will add some commentary on the purpose of each of the individual hooks to 
> the header file.

I'd certainly agree with the observation that it takes immediacy to force 
review and discussion to take place.  However, I think it's also the case that 
continuous review of a significant WIP is very time-consuming for the 
reviewers.  By structuring the review process a bit (i.e., identifying 
specific spots in the design, implementation, etc, where seeking review makes 
sense and there's a fairly fixed work product for someone to look at rather 
than a rapidly-moving target in which any comments are rapidly invalidated), I 
find I tend to receive much more productive reviews from others.  Certainly, 
"The attached patch is going into the tree on/about date X" is the most 
effective technique, other than just committing the change, to prompt 
review...

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge



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