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Date:      Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:13:03 -0700
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        Justin Hibbits <chmeeedalf@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Poor state of the build infrastructure.
Message-ID:  <CF7B0381-3829-4419-A1CA-180AD659358A@xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140924164731.2c170ced@zhabar.attlocal.net>
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On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Justin Hibbits <chmeeedalf@gmail.com> wrote:

>  It should probably error out instead, since the build
> environment isn't sane at this point.  I ran into this probably a few
> weeks back.
> 
>> The only thing the FreeBSD build is good at, really, is
>> building in /usr/src for the host. The rest is just not
>> up to par and I think it harms FreeBSD beyond belief.
> 
> I have no problems building outside of /usr/src.

It's not a problem in the sense that it cannot be done, but
just think about having to share a machine with a bunch of
people and you don't own the machine.
You quickly realize that without MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX or with
files in /etc (like /etc/make.conf) that you can't tweak,
you quick;y realize how error prone everything and how
much time you end up wasting.

-- 
Marcel Moolenaar
marcel@xcllnt.net



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