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Date:      Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:28:23 +0200
From:      Valentin Nechayev <netch@ivb.nn.kiev.ua>
To:        Eivind Eklund <eivind@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Gettext issues (was Re: cvs commit: ports CHANGES)
Message-ID:  <20040321102823.GB4401@iv.nn.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20040301104026.GC27008@FreeBSD.org>
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 Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:40:27, eivind (Eivind Eklund) wrote about "Gettext issues (was Re: cvs commit: ports CHANGES)": 

EE> Talking of gettext: I've been toying with the idea of having WITHOUT_NLS
EE> settable in sysinstall, or defaulting NLS to off.  I believe most FreeBSD
EE> users will want the english version, even if translations are available.
EE> As a such, I think inflicting the level of pain the gettext changes give
EE> on our users unless they find a fairly obscure knob is a Bad Idea.
EE> Any thoughts?

I strongly agree. Internationalization (aka i18n) is generally good idea,
but there is no need to treat it as Green Banner against all Heretics:(
Pity, but this is fact for GNU world.
For servers, it generally gives no useful functionality (and the same for
X libraries - so `WITHOUT_NLS=yes' and `WITHOUT_X11=yes' are the first thing
I set now in make.conf for each new server).
OTOH, it's the least useful to download 6 megs to hosts with bad connectivity,
when most of these megs are gettext's internal crap which is totally useless
for application which requires only libintl.


-netch-



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