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Date:      Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:23:01 +0900 (JST)
From:      Michael Hancock <michaelh@cet.co.jp>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: The -stable problem: my view
Message-ID:  <Pine.SV4.3.93.960609000342.18536A-100000@parkplace.cet.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: <199606080407.WAA02519@rocky.sri.MT.net>

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On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote:

> > > > Terry proposes a set of tools to help enforce the policy of always having
> >                                     ^^^^^^
> > 
> > I said help not guarantee.  The tools would help resolve reads while
> > commits are being done.  Multiple reader/single writer locks are a cheap
> > effective way to do this.
> 
> They wouldn't enforce or even help the policy.  Multiple reader/single
> writer locks don't solve any significant problem we've faced.  Why do
> something that limits the ability of developers to commit changes when
> the problem the fix happens .001% of the time?

So what's the commit protocol now, e-mail?  This sounds more limiting on a
developer's schedule no matter how many committers there are.  I assume
there are more than two and they would probably rather focus on writing
code than coordinating commits manually.

> It's like making a loop that gets called once at initialization time 50%
> faster while you leave the sorting algorithm which takes up 95% of CPU
> time alone.  It's doesn't buy you anything but a warm fuzzy feeling.

I'm not convinced this analogy holds.  With all the problems I saw over
the last 2 weeks it sure seemed like more than a slip of commit
discipline.
 
-mike hancock




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