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Date:      Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:04:23 +0100 (BST)
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl>
Cc:        ben@rosengart.com, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: shouting in a void? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9809211002490.451-100000@herring.nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9809210905441.21790-100000@korin.warman.org.pl>

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On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Andrzej Bialecki wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mark Murray wrote:
> > 
> > > With a panic, you also need to supply the stack bactrace,
> > 
> > That would be a lot easier if the kernel would be kind enough to dump
> > core.
> 
> I was recently helping Julian to debug problems with DEVFS, and nothing
> you could do could make the system to dump core. I had to read the
> handbook and try to use something called "remote GDB".
> 
> Boy, is that fantastic!!! If you have some other machine nearby, and a
> null modem cable, pleasy try it - it's extremely helpful, it just allows
> you to debug kernel just like any other program, with full source code
> display. I'd say, try it even to only gain some experience - you won't
> regret it.
> 
> And, did I mention that it doesn't require to dump any core? :-)

I have to agree with this.  The alpha port wouldn't be anywhere near
working if I didn't have a working kernel gdb.  Any other method of
debugging kernels is like trying to fix a watch while wearing boxing
gloves.

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Doug Rabson				Mail:  dfr@nlsystems.com
Nonlinear Systems Ltd.			Phone: +44 181 951 1891
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