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Date:      Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:13:00 +1100 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
To:        Joe Rhett <jrhett@svcolo.com>
Cc:        hardware@FreeBSD.org, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: com1 incorrectly associated with ttyd1, com2 with ttyd0
Message-ID:  <20051208145124.C63825@delplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <20051205200546.GB13194@svcolo.com>
References:  <20051117050336.GB67653@svcolo.com> <200511171030.36633.jhb@freebsd.org> <20051117220358.GA65127@svcolo.com> <20051130181757.GA29686@svcolo.com> <20051201204625.W41849@delplex.bde.org> <20051205200546.GB13194@svcolo.com>

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Joe Rhett wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:58:04PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote:
>> It's not clear that disabling in the BIOS should disable for all OSes.
>
> What?  That's a fairly weird interpretation.  If I want to disable inside a
> given OS, I do that inside the OS.  If I want to disable for _ALL_ OSes,
> then I disable in the BIOS.  What reasonable logic can argue otherwise?

The BIOS might not be layered under _all_ OSes, either due to its design
or implementation, or OSes not understanding how to talk to the BIOS, or
there being no way to talk BIOS.

>> Don't know.  I avoid ACPI if possible :-).  I suspect that FreeBSD can see
>> ACPI tables but not all BIOS tables, so any soft disabling in the BIOS gets
>> lost.
>
> Can you really use everything without ACPI?  What is lost by disabling ACPI?
> Don't you lose power-down support at the least?
> (I did look for a FAQ on ACPI and found darn little)

It's system-dependent.  ACPI is now essential for most portable
computers.  I don't have one , and lose only faster interrupt handing
via the APIC on workstations.  This is a small loss since the APIC is
broken on 1/2 of my systems that have both ACPI and APIC so APIC cannot
be configured on one, and the other one doesn't do much interrupt
handling or benchmarks thereof so I don't care if it would have faster
interrupt handling using APIC.

Bruce



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