Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:04:19 +0100 From: Steve Burton <steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk> To: Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: intel etherexpress pro and fxp status?? Message-ID: <3D2B4FD3.6BF2F5A3@sliderule.demon.co.uk> References: <20020709102153.A14126@kasilof.boi.hp.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020709125431.03fade00@marble.sentex.ca> <20020709144436.B12572@kasilof.boi.hp.com>
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Ken Gunderson wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:43:45PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > Stick with the fxp. I suspect its a popular card in FreeBSD land so by that > > very nature you are going to see more "problem" reports even if those > > reports have nothing to do with the fxp and more to do with other issues > > (e.g. hardware interaction between the card and the MB, PE, etc). > > > > Think of it this way: Lets say for arguments sake 1% of all FreeBSD problem > > reports are a result of pilot error and erroneously blame the NIC and or > > the NIC driver. And again for arguments sake lets say 100,000 FreeBSD > > users out there. If 30% use the Intel, and the next most popular card is > > lets say the realtek at 5% FreeBSD market share, the realtek will "seem" > > like a more reliable card since there are less problem reports. Using the > > sample numbers above, we would see 300 erroneous reports for the Intel vs. > > 50 reports on the realtek. Long story short, be careful about looking at > > the raw numbers of problem reports as an indicator of how reliable the NIC is. > > > > ---Mike > > > > > > > > At 10:21 AM 09/07/2002 -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > >Greets All: > > > > > >during the 4.6rc era i recall there were issues with intel ether > > >pro and fxp drivers, particularly with smp boxes. Searching > > >pr's i note there are numerous open issues as well. in the past > > >the fbsd nic mantra has always been "intel ether express". Is > > >such still the case with the 82559 based nics (e.g. pila 8460), > > >or should I be looking elsewhere? Note that one of my boxes is a > > >dual pii 450 on a bx board. > > > > > > > > >Please cc, as I am no longer subscribed to the list (thanks to > > >the phb's) > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Ken Gunderson (non-HP) > > >HP-UX Systems Administrator > > >HP NAOD Front-line System Management > > >Boise Server Support Team > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > thanks for the reply. i need about 5 additional cards for a > personal project and i didin't want to order the intels and end > up having to replace them. interestingly enough, a co-worker > informs me these cards are causing a lot fo grief under load in > quite a number of linux boxes deployed in hp datacenters. > apparently the cards just become overwhelmed about once or twice > per month and just hang until reset. chip in these cards is the > 82557. there were numerous issues with fxp around 4.6rc time, > and some rather long and involved threads discussing the > issueses. i am just unsure as to the final outcome, however, > and i am curiosu whether this ended up being a driver or chipset > issue. if fxp driver then i know fbsd developers are on teh > job, but if chipset, did the 82559 resolve the problem?? > any clues?? > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken Gunderson (non-HP) > HP-UX Systems Administrator > HP NAOD Front-line System Management > Boise Server Support Team > 208-396-7926 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I recently bought an intel express S (desktop model) and had real problems with 4.6 rc1. Connected to a Cisco 2916 I had to force 10Mbit/half duplex to get any throughput. I traced the problem to a bad cable (split pair) and thought that was the end of it until I put it under heavy load. Using htdig to spider a local (LAN) intranet server took 9 hours. I replaced the card with an older model (b or +) and the spidering went down to about ten minutes. Still sticking with Intel at the moment though. Steve. -- Steve Burton Webmaster & Sub-optimal Coder To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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