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Date:      Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:22:50 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, rab@pike.cdrom.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BSD advertising clause
Message-ID:  <199903201322.GAA04230@usr01.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <18191.921785939@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 18, 99 11:38:59 am

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> > This is utter BS.  I can't believe a law professor from Berkeley who
> > was willing to make such comments in a public forum has not read the
> > law; this makes me doubt either your veracity or your memory.  Here is
> > the relevent cite:
> 
> I can't believe that somebody with no formal legal training would jump
> into this argument and attempt a more "correct" interpretation either.

As I have stated before, feel free to obtain your own copy of the
Opinion from the clerks office.  The judge who rendered the opinion
certainly had legal training; I'm merely paraphrasing his statements,
and those of Counsel from the Venture Law Group.

I am constatly amazed by what people assume I have and have not
studied.  No, I am not a member of the Bar; but neither do I think
legal documents (or standards documents) are so opaque that you
have to specialize in a tiny field of study to understand their
denotations (and connotations).

If you want a professional legal opinion rather than hearsay, pay
someone to render one; I'm sure we're all eager to see the results
posted.


> > Well, then you've never talked to a developer.  You can have my claim
> > credit clause when you pry it from my cold, dead hands; it's the only
> 
> He's not talking about the "claim credit" clause - the "advertising
> clause" he's talking about doesn't effect you at all.  This is a red
> herring.

I suppose here that you're trying to relabel clause 2 as the "claim
credit" clause, and 3 as the "advertising" clause.  This is an
incorrect characterization; clause 2 is the "license reproduction"
clause.  The "advertising" clause is Richard Stallman's name for the
"claim credit" clause, and I refuse to allow his label to stick.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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