Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com> To: Craig Johnston <craig@gnofn.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd@atipa.com>, Rod Ebrahimi <info@pagecreators.com>, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pentium II? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970730090211.1338D-100000@misery.sdf.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970730031654.1492A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Craig Johnston wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Craig Johnston wrote: > > > > > > > The PII runs 16-bit software better and adds MMX extensions, but for a > > > > > network server the PPro will still be faster. > > > > > > > > The PII/266 will be faster than a PPro/200. > > > > > > Not buying into Intel's slot 1 ploy is a good enough reason not to run > > > PII's. Slot 1 is not going to be around very long and I wouldn't count > > > on not running into bugs in the relatively untested slot 1 chipset. > > > > If you use that arguement, you shouldn't by anything then! The PPro > > Um, no. There's this idea of relative quantities, you see? Slot 1 > is going to be short-lived _compared_ to other solutions. How long > has socket 7 been ticking along now? It's well known that slot 2 is > coming right on the heels of slot 1. The PPro series is already dead: no further development. The Pentium series will end with the 233mhz MMX chip. Only the here-and-now matters. Sure the Pentium and Pro have been around longer, but Intel is already winding them down! As short lived as slot 1 may be (in total lifespan), it will be around long after the Pro. > Why bother with the Intel "chipset of the week" game? Slot 1 systems > don't offer anything you can't do better with the same cash with PPro and > socket 7 systems. The only folks likely to benefit from slot 1 at > all are likely to be Intel -- they'll make a bundle off upgrade-happy > power-lusers who've been exposed to one too many Ziff-Davis magazines. PII/266 chips are cheaper than than Pro/200 w/512k cache, and faster. Besides the chipset is the same! > > (socket 8?) is doomed too, as Intel will not be developing it further (a > > 233mhz version would be nice). The Pentium MMX is going to max at 233, > > before being put out to pasture. So, every option is "doomed"... > > The real issue is that the PII is untried, whereas FreeBSD systems > on PPro hardware, like ftp.cdrom.com (which serves 2000 simultaneous > ftp users) have been ticking along reliably for quite some time > now. Hardly untried, just souped up Pentium technology. ... > So exactly whose critical FreeBSD systems are you building with > PIIs right now, Tom? I suggest you try one first. > -Craig > > > >
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