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Date:      Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:46:54 +0200
From:      peter@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen)
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@FreeBSD.org>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, doc-committers@freebsd.org, Chin-San Huang <chinsan@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit:	doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml
Message-ID:  <876449eltd.fsf@thingy.datadok.no>
In-Reply-To: <46A62652.6020208@FreeBSD.org> (Doug Barton's message of "Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:18:26 -0700")
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Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> management tools in the handbook is a bad idea. I think the problem is
> where do we draw the line. You mentioned two issues, how to install
> ports (which I don't think there is any dispute about) and how to
> maintain them. If your idea of describing "how to maintain them" means
> detailed descriptions of the operations of "how to maintain them" with
> each of the tools available, then we disagree. I don't think that
> scales, and I think it bloats the handbook with a lot of repetitive
> information.

I realize I probably sounded more than a little alarmist on this bit,
and I apologize.  It's been a while since I took a serious look at the
non-firewalls parts of the handbook, but if a brush-up of the ports
sections is needed, to me it sounds like we are not really that far
apart.  In fact it sounds like an interesting writing project which I
might take a stab at once I'm done with the one I'm doing now.  The
time frame would be some time after Copenhagen (EuroBSDCon). 

> When I say "how to maintain them" I think we should describe in
> general terms that there are various tools that can be used to do this
> job, here is a little information about them, and here is where you
> can find more detailed information.

Yes, we're basically agreed here.  Sorry for the noise.  I'll be back
whif I have something tangible to contribute.

All the best,
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



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