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Date:      Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:18:55 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "Jonathan M. Slivko" <jslivko@alpha.simphost.com>
To:        Matt Heckaman <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET>
Cc:        Rick McGee <rickm@imbris.com>, FreeBSD-PORTS <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD-SECURITY <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: pine 4.21 port issues?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008091618490.66171-100000@alpha.simphost.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008080127370.87221-100000@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca>

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I totally agree, Matt :)

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote:

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> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Rick McGee wrote:
> : 
> : Hi Matt, no it's ok and it works rather well. If you look up chmod the
> : sticky bit this what you get. 1000 (the sticky bit) When set on a
> : directory, unprivileged users can delete and rename only those files
> : in the directory that are owned by them, regardless of the permissions
> : on the directory.  Under FreeBSD, the sticky bit is ignored for
> : executable files and may only be set for directories
> : 
> : Rick
> 
> Yes, I know what the sticky bit does :) The point is, that is NOT set on
> the directory by default in FreeBSD, nor is the directory world writable,
> so why is pine reporting this as a vulnerability? I know that it is not,
> but it's causing panic in my users.
> 
> The point is, I strictly control world writable directories on my system,
> making /var/mail world writable to satisfy pine seems a silly thing to do
> in my opinion. I run qmail on the system through procmail, and all mail
> files are owned to the user name and group, ie the files themselves are
> not group owned to mail.
> 
> Either way, my point is that since FreeBSD by default does not make
> /var/mail sticky or world writable, should not the port include a patch
> that modifies this to check based on the proper FreeBSD permissions?
> 
> pine 4.21 on the 4.0-RELEASE port tree worked fine, and did not display
> this message, (date: March 19) however 4.1-RELEASE ports pine 4.21 does
> give this warning message. I'm going to look into it a tad more on the
> code side, and I'll most likely fix it to check the right permissions for
> my machines. Is it appropriate for a patch like that to be implimented
> into the ports patches?
> 
> I think it's bad that a port reports default FreeBSD permissions as
> vulnerable :)
> 
> Regards,
> Matt Heckaman
> 
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