Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 23:33:00 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: David Kirchner <dpk@dpk.net> Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, stable@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 Message-ID: <20060504033300.GA39935@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060502172225.GA90840@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060502174429.GH753@dimma.mow.oilspace.com> <44579EE1.6010300@rogers.com> <20060502180557.GA91762@xor.obsecurity.org> <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060502182302.GA92027@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504021908.GA714@soaustin.net> <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com>
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--mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:11:32PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: > On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > >To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something. You > >have to choose a point where the least number of users will see regressi= ons > >vs. the most number of users will see improvements. (Not everyone uses > >quotas.) >=20 > FWIW, the snapshot bugs, particularly those seen during background > fscks, can affect every installation, although you're unlikely to see > them unless your server panics or loses power (or in some way requires > a fsck on boot). You missed the part where snapshots have caused deadlocks under varying conditions since day 1. They have never worked 100% reliably, and despite our best efforts that will remain true with 6.1. Kris --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEWXXrWry0BWjoQKURArz3AJwLpLs/sxroLdLWtzYmaAXyNcO6SgCg5s6g yu1xiRfESLcXeq2Fjl2TnT4= =UPA6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--
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