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Date:      Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:28:01 -0800
From:      Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
To:        Alexander Motin <mav@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD acpi <freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: RFC: powerd algorithms enhancements
Message-ID:  <49186111.9020103@root.org>
In-Reply-To: <491404BF.1090807@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <491404BF.1090807@FreeBSD.org>

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Alexander Motin wrote:
> The discussion of this is going on mobile@:
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RFC: powerd algorithms enhancements
> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:57:55 +0200
> From: Alexander Motin <mav@FreeBSD.org>
> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I would like to propose the patch for powerd that fixes some issues,
> makes it more universal and on my opinion more usable. The main ideas of
> mine were:

I have not yet reviewed the patch but have some comments.

> 1. To make it more SMP polite. Previous version uses average CPU load
> that leads to the often load underestimation. It make powerd with
> default configuration unusable on systems with more then 2 CPUs. I
> propose to use summary load instead of average one. IMO this is the best
> we can do without specially tuned scheduler. Also as soon as measuring
> total load on SMP systems is more useful then total idle, I have
> switched to it.

Ok.

> 2. To make powerd's operation independent from number and size of
> frequency levels I have added internal frequency counter which
> translated into real frequencies only on a last stage and only as good
> as gone. Some systems may have only several power levels, while mine has
> 17 of them, so adaptation time in completely different. It would be good
> if algorithm was not depending on it.

I don't understand the advantage of this.

> 3. As part of previous I have changed adaptive mode to rise frequency on
> demand up to 2 times and fall on 1/8 per time internal.
> 
> 4. For desktop (AC-powered) systems I have added one more mode -
> "hiadaptive". It rises frequency twice faster, drops it 4 times slower,
> prefers twice lower CPU load and has additional delay before leaving the
> highest frequency after the period of maximum load. This mode was
> specially made to improve interactivity of the systems where operation
> capabilities are more significant then power consumption, but keeping
> maximum frequency all the time is not needed.
> 
> 5. I have reduced polling interval from 1/2 to 1/4 of second. It is not
> important for algorithm math now, but gives better system interactivity.

There's a patch Cyrille Szymanski has sent me to review that implements
the FLAT and PAST algorithms in powerd.  I think we should not add new
modes that are heuristics (including this one) until we have a chance to
compare it to algorithms that have been the result of real research.

I'll try to get Cyrille to send out an amended patch for public review.

-- 
Nate



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