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Date:      Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:16:54 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@tower.berklix.net>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        jhs@berklix.com, np@bsn.com, FreeBSD-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ad driver fails on 6.2, OK on 4.11 with Dell Latitude XPi P133ST 
Message-ID:  <200704191516.l3JFGsEi080574@fire.jhs.private>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070418143052.11322A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au> 
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070418143052.11322A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>

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Ian Smith wrote:
>  > I have this fdisk layout 
>  >    F1   The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
>  >    4.11      start 63, size 1228689 (599 Meg), flag 80 (active)
>  >              beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
>  >    F2   The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
>  >    6.2       start 1228752, size 1228689 (599 Meg), flag 80 (active)
>  >              beg: cyl 195/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 389/ head 14/ sector 63
>  >    F3   The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
>  >    /usr1     start 2457441, size 5550111 (2710 Meg), flag 80 (active)
>  >              beg: cyl 389/ head 15/ sector 1; end: cyl 775/ head 15/ sector 63
> 
> Firstly, it looks weird having flag 80 (active) on more than one slice; 
> I'm not sure what the MBR boot manager would make of that (as it usually
> offers the currently marked active slice as default).

Thanks ! Hadn't spotted that. Looks bad. Worse as now I can't
repeat this, now I have (again from 4.11)

	sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
	    start 63, size 1228689 (599 Meg), flag 80 (active)
	        beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
	        end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
	The data for partition 2 is:
	sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
	    start 1228752, size 1228689 (599 Meg), flag 0
	        beg: cyl 195/ head 0/ sector 1;
	        end: cyl 389/ head 14/ sector 63
	The data for partition 3 is:
	sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
	    start 2457441, size 5550111 (2710 Meg), flag 0
	        beg: cyl 389/ head 15/ sector 1;
	        end: cyl 775/ head 15/ sector 63
	The data for partition 4 is:
	<UNUSED>


> Also the break between slices 2 and 3 looks possibly unusual, F3 not
> starting on a (CHS) head 0 sector 1; this might be ok but it might
> explain 6.2 install fdisk wanting to start your slice 3 a bit later on. 

Yes. Not too worried about F3 though, not bootable, just space.

>  > I NFS'd a 6.2 on, but on reboot, F2 just beeped; I suspected a
>  > corrupt MBR, so to test, on 4.11 did :
>  > 	cd /usr/src; make install
>  > 	dd if=/dev/ad0c of=/dev/ad1c
> 
> Is ad1 a separate drive you haven't mentioned?  and ad0c doesn't make
> sense to me anyway (ad0s1c maybe).  What were you trying to do here?

Sorry, my typo.  I meant dd if=/dev/ad0s0c of=/dev/ad0s1c

>  > 	disklabel -B /dev/ad0s2
>  > 	reboot
> 
> So you installed 4.11 bootstrap code on your 6.2 slice?

Yes.	I was NFS'd.
Laptop only with 4.11 bootable from hard disc.
OK could have tried floppy, but though that was dead (not so).
Point taken though, if changes between 4 & 6 ...

>  > F2 just beeped again. (same beep as for an invalid key)
> 
> Mmm.  Sounds like you want a new MBR with the right data, and I'd
> suggest using 6.2 to fix that, not 4.11 .. see below. 

Yup.

>  > Restored F2 back to 6.2 using NFS + AMD from another 6.2-RELEASE box &
>  > 	setenv DESTDIR /host/test/a
>  > 	grep "CFLAGS /etc/make.conf # "CFLAGS += -march=i586
>  > 	cd /usr/src;make clean all install # & install kernel etc
>  > F2 still just beeped.
> 
> Can't comment on that procedure.
> 
>  > Booted 6.2-RELEASE floppies,
>  > 	6.2 kernel saw nothing on disc !  Offered ito install on whole disc.
>  > I told it to to use same 1228689 for F1 & 1228689 for F2 as above,
>  > ( & it came up with 5552064 not 5550111 ) for F3. I accepted &
>  > aloc'd F2 with / & var & usr & no swap, & F3 mainly for /usr1 with
>  > 300M swap at end).  I told it to set normal FreeSBD boot manager
>  > etc, then it failed to write with:
>  > 	ad0 timeout READ_DMA timed out
> 
> Sure your BIOS hasn't got 'virus protection' MBR writes prohibited? 

No, but did discover Replicator SCSI & Replicator Network & turned both off.

>  > Reboot ... No sign 6.2 has ever written disc.  F2 6.2 is intact
>  > with data I'd expected wiped if 6.2 boot from floppy + newfs had succeeded.
>  > 	Is 6.2 ad driver too ambitious during install ? Needs more
>  > 	conservative sysctls to avoid failures to upgrade/ install ?
>  > 
>  > F1 4.11 is intact so I can easily run tests anyone might suggest.  I ran
>  > 	dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null
>  > to see if any block errors. - None reported.
>  > 8007552+0 records 4099866624 bytes (1633191 bytes/sec)
> 
> That's some good news :)

Yup.

>  > About the only other thing I can think of is somehow within the floppy install
>  > trying to add the equivalent of:
>  > 	/boot/loader.conf
>  > 		 hw.ata.ata_dma="0"
>  > 		 hw.ata.wc="0"
>  > Though I dont believe that will solve the F2 beep.
> 
> I tend to doubt that this is really a dma (or for that matter, ata)
> problem; it might be spurious to the problem of having a crook MBR or
> your 6.2 boot blocks mangled.
> 
> If it were me, I think I'd use 6.2 sysinstall to a) preserve your 4.11
> slice, of course; b) delete slices 2 and 3 completely; then c) allocate
> slice 2 afresh (600MB is a bit teensy for 6.2, I'd have thought, and it
> might be safer in this present context to put your swap on ad0s2 also) 
> and partition/label (for now) just slice 2, then install 6.2 minimally.
> 
> And of course install the standard FreeBSD boot manager from 6.2; that
> should leave your 4.11 slice alone ok, but properly install 6.2 boot
> blocks in s2, and a fresh good MBR.
> 
> You can easily allocate the remaining space for your third /usr1 slice
> later, once happily installed .. my maxim with sysinstall is if you just
> do one thing at a time with it, then it'll probably work out ok :)
> 
> Good luck,

Yes, In fact now Ive seen 6.2 can boot on this laptop (not all
laptops I've had could boot some 5.x though they could do 4.x))
I'll be even more drastic, & wipe the entire disc & lay down a new
MBR from 6.2 boot flops.  ( It'll have to wait a week though. )

> Ian

Thanks ! 
Julian
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