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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:06:59 -0800
From:      Lars Eggert <larse@ISI.EDU>
To:        Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@flugsvamp.com>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: decreasing TIME_WAIT duration(T/TCP?)
Message-ID:  <3C02AEF3.3000502@isi.edu>
References:  <local.mail.freebsd-net/PLEAKFMAJKNOEPLJKGBLGEJGCAAA.larse@isi.edu> <local.mail.freebsd-net/3C02275C.E4C56BF@sirena2000.ru> <200111261443.fAQEhu185094@prism.flugsvamp.com> <200111261947.fAQJl0321324@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20011126141909.N75389@prism.flugsvamp.com>

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Jonathan Lemon wrote:

> As you said, there is no way to reliably calculate this value, since the
> delay is theortically unbounded; in fact RFC 793 sets it at 120 seconds.  
> 
> However, my assertion is that in most cases, the true MSL for segments
> on a given connection will tend to be tied to some multiple of the RTT;
> that is, there exists a strong correlation between the two.

While I agree that the average "segment lifetime" of a given connection 
is probably on the same order of magnitude than the RTT, this does not 
have any impact on the MAXIMUM segment lifetime: it's an Internet-wide 
upper bound. Even for connections with millisecond RTTs, packets can be 
delayed for seconds or longer due to routing glitches.

The original poster wanted to shorten the MSL to avoid accumulating TIME 
WAITs at the server. There are better techniques for that, see for 
example Ted Faber's paper in INFOCOM '99 
(http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubs.html).

Lars
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Lars Eggert <larse@isi.edu>               Information Sciences Institute
http://www.isi.edu/larse/              University of Southern California


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