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Date:      Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:24:28 -0700
From:      "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@plutotech.com>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
Cc:        "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@plutotech.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCSI Sense ASC 11, ASCQ 0x0c - Unrecovered read errors 
Message-ID:  <199802252127.OAA26422@pluto.plutotech.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:10:42 CST." <19980225151042.07314@mcs.net> 

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>> If the system is not properly dealing with EIO conditions, that is
>> certainly a bug, but your suggested fix is not a correct solution.
>
>This condition, right now, causes a *HANG* if it happens on *DATA FILES*.
>
>Not a panic, not an error return, not termination of the offending process.
>A hard system crash which requires a RESET to recover from.

Was it really necessary to quote the entire message to make this point?

If the system is hanging, it is definitely a bug.  I'll add it to the
list of other VFS bugs Ken and I are planning to look at.  We are playing
around quite a bit with hot swap and error recovery and we've been finding
that in many cases the SCSI code cleans up and reports errors correctly,
but other kernel subsystems do not.  For instance, you often cannot
"umount -f" a disk with dirty buffers that had a catastrophic I/O error
even though that error was properly reported all the way down to the
application.

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