Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:42:31 -0500 From: KapuT <kaput@whoever.com> To: Capriotti <capriotti@geocities.com> Cc: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redundancy Message-ID: <351569A7.45FBB8DA@whoever.com> References: <3.0.32.19980323042507.0094e370@pop.mpc.com.br>
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All than Capriotti write is true... Newbie spread the Idea. I dont understand why you do all thing for advanced user... Who buy the PC right now? New Users Who put windows 95 in the garbage? New users who find after 6 month than Win95 was bullshit Why they put FreeBSD in the garbage? To much hard and undocumented. You can buy 15 Linux guide in some Bookstores... So, FreeBSD core team should review "To who we sell the 4 CD pack?" :-) KapuT Capriotti wrote: > I apologize for private-answering this, Sue. It was my mistake. > > Let's get this back to the list, since it's where it belongs to. > > At 03:24 AM 3/23/98 +1100, you wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:36:10PM -0300, Capriotti wrote: > >> > > >> >> I'll help out where I can. > >> > > >> >Is anyone else interested in helping too? > >> > >> > >> Count on me. I've been lookinbg for something like that. I can't code but I > >> feel I can help "tranlating" technichese to english we can understamd. > > > >That's the spirit! :-) > >There's a few ways to do it: > > > >You could write to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org and tell them what you can do and > >that you're available. Tell them you're not a member of freebsd-doc and > >they'll make sure you get your replies by email. > > > >You could rely on anyone who visits freebsd-newbies to point you to people > >who want help, but that would be slower. I'm not sure whether it'll work out > >that way, and I'm hoping that the rest of -newbies will discuss it a bit to > >decide if that's a good method. Actually, I'm hoping that everyone will > >discuss everything! It's about time newbies started being allowed to make > >their own decisions as a group, sharing ideas. Yes I know, everyone's still > >a bit shy for a while. > > > >You could start reading almost any of the stuff listed on > >http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and giving feedback. If you do, it'd be > >nice if you could let the other newbies know you're doing it so that they'll > >know that the work is being spread around. > > I feel we all can contribute dong this, but we need to be organized ! We > can't just say "I'm doing this !" and that's it. > > I feel we could first put our goals and ideas toghether, pick up a couple > of our volunteers, and then offer our help to freebsd-doc. Working for the > FreeBSD is great, but doing things w/o organization my not help at all. > > Counting with FreeBSD "blessing" in important and may be a lot more > productive than trying it by ourselves. > > In short: put ideas on the "paper" > see if those ideas were put on "paper" (man, FAQs, etd) > find a couple of budies to be responsible for this job (newbies) > talk to the advanced guys ionvolved and discuss ideas with them > once ideas are equalized, start reading, writting and publishing > > > > >> I suggest we look for ppl involved with documantatios project and ask/offer > >> our efforts. > > > >Of course you're only suggesting that to me in private mail, so it's > >private. If you feel like it, you could say so on freebsd-newbies so that > >others can use your idea too. > > > > Well, not in PVT anymore ! > > > > >> (Sometimes I feel that the free's HP shuld include some information like > >> "free help wanted: we are looking for ppl who can bla bla bla..." so that > >> we could actualy know where we can - or not - be of any use.) > > > >It's going to take everyone a little time to get used to having newbies > >around (even for us!). > > I think it will be fast. One can't make an operating system - or any other > program - and imagine that only experts will like/join it. > > All in all, nwebies are the real stranght of FreeBSD, because they are the > ones who spread the idea. > > > > >When our group is more together it'll be easy to invite someone to come in > >and ask us whenever help is needed with something, if that's the way > >everyone wants to do it. > > Meanwhile we can get toghether, show that we may be newbies, but it does > not mean we're not intelligent an capable, and kindly do something useful > to ourselves and to newcomers ! What a wonderful way to show that something > works and is important, huh ? > > > We can do some things without waiting for that, so > >we have to find out what we want to help with and what we want to do by > >ourselves. I'm very reluctant to make any decisions for all newbies based on > >one person's ideas, especially if they're my ideas, so we all need to chat > >about it on the mailing list. > > > > Kay, people. It's time to get organized ! Stop talking about things ( not > being redundant) and set up our "Wish list" for a "Welcome newbie" stuff. > > This is the written side of the story; There is also the FUG side suggested > by KapuT, but I'd better stay woth the written side: Ain't got no time to > get togheter :( > > Ideas ? Suggestion ? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- *************************** kaput@whoever.com www.aei.ca/~malartre/ ICQ #4224434 IRCNet #quebec #wage #mid Undernet #FreeBSD Windows95 Unix-Version FreeBSD-2.2.6 *************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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