Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 21:11:39 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <5717017B.4070602@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20160420040711.GL1554@FreeBSD.org> References: <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <BF66EA01-E073-45F0-8F9E-22D57E8871B0@bsdimp.com> <aac60be5cf51d9f3f0beda1cff960f93@rdsor.ro> <20160420040711.GL1554@FreeBSD.org>
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On 04/19/16 21:07, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:59:38AM +0300, dan_partelly wrote: >>> Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress is >>> made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds people >> into >>> dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a >>> discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers >> storming >>> the castle. No good can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a >> factor >>> of 100 and try to have the conversation again. >>> >> I'm frankly perplexed by this statement. Its seldom I perceived so much >> sorrow and bitterness in 6 lines. There is no castle Warner, unless you >> want one to exist, one where you can isolate yourself from the indentured >> peasants and anything they say. Beyond your thick walls you'll be well >> served, >> every idea outside your wals will be toned down by a factor of 100 by the >> time >> it reaches the lord, becoming total agreement with anything the lord >> thinks. >> >> I cant believe I wrote this shit. But then again, I cant believe you just >> wrote >> what you did. >> > And it's responses like this that are severely demotivating. > > Glen > Yes, this is not helpful. Talking about walls and lords and whatever can only make people angry (or demotivated) and is never persuasive. This is really great work; there is a discussion about some nits in how to distribute the results that corresponds to maybe 1% of the total patch. -Nathan
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