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Date:      Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
To:        Jean-Mark Dupoux <jeanm@dupx.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc:        "FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Installing from dos  problem
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910190038380.18534-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu>
In-Reply-To: <380BF387.A34D1FE6@dupx.freeserve.co.uk>

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I'm not sure your problem here is the amount of space allocated
to the partitions.  But if I were doing a 2 gb drive, I'd use
dos fdisk to create a dos partition (it probably needs to be 400
megabytes if you want Windows in it) at the beginning of the disk,
and I'd install either dos or windows in it--before install FreeBSD.

Second partition would be created (again with dos fdisk) at the
end of the hard drive, so the second dos partition is the last
600 megs (or however much you want) on the hard drive.

Then I'd install FreeBSD in the empty space in the middle, in one
FreeBSD slice (primary dos partition) and I wouldn't use defaults.
With this size hard drive in a machine without a lot of ram, you
want a fair amount of swap.  So I'd do maybe 42 megs for /, 48 or
or even 60 for swap, 30 for /var, and the rest for /usr.  You
don't need a lot for var and you can move log files out of there
if it gets crowded.

Also I wouldn't do the minimum install.  You have room here to
install X if you want it, kernel sources, and (most important) the
ports collection (which is not the ports themselves, just the
framework for downloading and installing them).  I think the SVGA
server (you might check on this) is the one you need for your card
for X; don't install others or lots of fonts as these take up a lot
of space and you can do them later.

Are you sure before you move from the partition editor to the label
editor (with q) you press S (as I recall) to get an A next to the
C in the partition in which you've chosen to install--i.e., you
make it bootable?

	Annelise


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Jean-Mark Dupoux wrote:

> In response to advice that more detailed information would help in
> solving installation problem (sorry if this  was a little sketchy first
> time around)
> 
> my pc is:
> 
> 486 dx4 - 160mhz
> 28 mb  DRAM
> 2gb seagate  IDE hdd
> isa / pci bus motherboard - ALI chipset 487/89
> S3 - virge display adapter
> 
> (some minor peripherals, eg serial // i-o card, sound card etc..)
> 
> install worked  fine through booting from  kern / mst floppies and
> detecting  hardware / selecting drivers at floppy  boot,
> (the program  was very accurate with device  detections)
> 
> i removed  unwanted settings for  network and scsi  adapters etc  in the
> harware selections screen,  and then moved to  partition label / editing
> screen
> 
> the program  detected  very accurately  disk geometry
> i.e. geometry from bios / dos-detected  / freebsd-detected  all matched
> exactly
> 4092 cyls /16 heads /63 sectors /512 b per sector,  so  the settings
> was  easy to make (nearly always  "default" or  "auto")
> 
> 
> 1200 mb was given to single dos  partition
> 800mb  free space  was claimed during installation by freebsd,  and then
> split
> using <A>  auto-option of 60/20/40/735 MB for </>, swap, </var>, </usr>
> respectively
> 
> minimum install (only  \bin and  \manpages)  was selected,
> but the program  then ran into trouble.
> 
> the following messages were the last  things displayed  before  giving
> up:
> 
> "extracting bin into / directory", followed by
> 
> "write failure on transfer",  and
> 
> "wrote -1 bytes of 1024 bytes,  unable to transfer from wd0s1"
> 
> the install then offered to "try extract  again",  which i clicked "yes"
> 
> a few times,  but  the result was  still the same.
> 
> when i rebooted,  dos  still  worked  fine, which i could start from the
> freebsd boot selector (F1/F2)
> but  freebsd did not get past the first  line,  (returned "no kernel"
> for  every command)
> 
> It  occurred to me afterwards that  there  may still  be an issue with
> the  freebsd slice starting  after  1024 cyls,
> so i backed-up,  put in 2 x 160 mb partitions ( 1 each of dos  and
> freebsd) before a 800mb dos partition and the rest was free space to
> claim for freebsd when  i booted from floppies and run install.
> this was to try installing  below 1024 cyls.
> i then continued  with install option selections,  put in </>  and
> </usr> in  freebsd small sector,  <swap>,  </var>  and </usr/local> in
> freebsd large sector,  chos  "minimum install" and  hit "ok"
> the result was  exactly  the same as before.
> 
> this was a bit disappointing really, especially since the install
> program  seemed to do such a good job of talking to the system for
> detecting devices  etc ..
> 
> i hope this more detailed information can bring us a little nearer to
> some kind of an answer anyhow.
> 
> Jean-Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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