Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:28:44 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: "C. P. Ghost" <cpghost@cordula.ws> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS Message-ID: <20111027182844.f5a9b541.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <CADGWnjXFJnYFaUC15dc6t0knB98PTxZUnR5MKkfGGb2n=t1mcA@mail.gmail.com> References: <15996.1319704110@tristatelogic.com> <1319712142.89939.YahooMailNeo@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111027172944.75a96733.freebsd@edvax.de> <CADGWnjXFJnYFaUC15dc6t0knB98PTxZUnR5MKkfGGb2n=t1mcA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:55 +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > BUT: CUPS seems to be hardcoded into many applications > > today. They stopped working with the non-CUPS default > > system tools. An example is Opera. Another one is Gimp > > which works with system lp* tools, but has hardcoded > > queries to "lpstat" (a CUPS program that doesn't exist > > or "cannot connect to the server"). The upcoming question > > here is: WHY??? > > (...) > > > CUPS also has program names that are derived from LPR's > > competitor. The "lpstat" command is such an example, and > > I think "lpadmin" also is. > > lpstat and lpadmin are standard SysV tools for printing. Ah, thanks for reminding me to that fact. As I said, I knew they came from "another system" which was different from BSD's lpr / lpd / lpq / lprm tools. > They existed LONG before CUPS: > > http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/print/sol_lp1.html > > Please note that there are two distinct toolsets for (traditional) > UNIX printing: > * lpr tools for BSD printing > * lp tools for SysV printing > Please don't call the BSD lpr toolset "lp tools", that's pretty > confusing to us old-gen sysadmins. ;-) I'll keep that in mind, thanks, and I hope to also grow old as a sysadmin so I get educated properly to use the correct terminology. :-) toolsets = { lp /* System V */ lpr /* BSD */ CUPS /* the future, the bright and happy future! */ } -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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