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Date:      Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Howard Lew <hlew@www2.shoppersnet.com>
To:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd@atipa.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com>
Subject:   Re: Pentium II?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970730210439.11438A-100000@www2.shoppersnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970730085949.29912D-100000@dot.ishiboo.com>

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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, FreeBSD Mailing List wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Craig Johnston wrote:
> 
> > > > Not buying into Intel's slot 1 ploy is a good enough reason not to run
> > > > PII's. Slot 1 is not going to be around very long and I wouldn't count
> > > > on not running into bugs in the relatively untested slot 1 chipset.  
> 
> > >   If you use that arguement, you shouldn't by anything then!  The PPro
> > 
> > Um, no.  There's this idea of relative quantities, you see?  Slot 1
> > is going to be short-lived _compared_ to other solutions.  How long
> > has socket 7 been ticking along now?  It's well known that slot 2 is
> > coming right on the heels of slot 1.    
> 
> Just to make the point more muddled, the PII's and PPro's use THE EXACT 
> SAME CHIPSET! In fact, you can buy a SEC to ZIF SOCKET 8 converter. The 
> chipset is not or should not be the concern (97% of all P2's and Pro's 
> are using the Intel Natoma (440FX) chipset). 
>  
> > Why bother with the Intel "chipset of the week" game?  Slot 1 systems
> > don't offer anything you can't do better with the same cash with PPro and
> > socket 7 systems.  The only folks likely to benefit from slot 1 at
> > all are likely to be Intel -- they'll make a bundle off upgrade-happy
> > power-lusers who've been exposed to one too many Ziff-Davis magazines.
> 
> With the same cash is important. P2 boards will be more expensive, along 
> with the chips.
>  
> > > (socket 8?) is doomed too, as Intel will not be developing it further (a
> > > 233mhz version would be nice).  The Pentium MMX is going to max at 233,
> > > before being put out to pasture.  So, every option is "doomed"...
> 
> ZIF architecture is being promoted heavily by AMD, Cyrix, etc. The new 
> Socket 7 motherboards we carry go up to 363MHz (66 x 5.5) and above 
> (83MHZ x 4.5). I expect ZIF-8 solutions to be available soon from 
> competitive vendors.
> 

Anyone know what brands of motherboards with 5.5X jumpers are available 
now?  I know FreeTech has one, but then it is a VX chipset one.



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